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To: Ditto

“No doubt all of our bills are higher in real terms, but that is a function of how much more we use today.”

So, even with all these wind farms and solar facilities being built over the last 10 years electricity is NOT more expensive?

Are you mocking me?


63 posted on 04/09/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
So, even with all these wind farms and solar facilities being built over the last 10 years electricity is NOT more expensive? Are you mocking me?

We have yet to see it here because despite all the media hype, wind and solar are still a pimple on an elephant's butt in terms of scale. Wind and solar installed capacity represents less than 1% of total US installed capacity. And also keep in mind that the real generation from these units average less than 30% of their reated capacity, so nation-wide, they actually put very little on the grid -- for now.

In some regions, such as the Northern Plains, with relatively small demand and with a large number of mega wind farms being installed (strictly for the subsidies), the impacts are beginning to show, but nation-wide it will still be a while before they can build enough of the things to really screw up the cost equations. Not so in European countries such as Spain, Denmark and even England where a equal number of wind turbines represents a much larger percentage of capacity. The article at the top of the thread explains exactly why that is so and why they are causing rising prices.

And no, I'm not trying to mock you. I'm just pointing out the reality, if you will excuse the pun.

65 posted on 04/09/2009 11:37:04 AM PDT by Ditto
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