Posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
What thread is that? I will do my very best to explain things. You think I’d ask this if I had something to hide about truthfulness? Go ahead.
1) The story says the 'GOP should pass...' It's intellectually dishonest to suggest that he is talking about a plan that would gain muster with the Democrats in Congress rather than interpreting that as 'try and pass' because - as someone else pointed out, the GOP can't pass anything. So if you continued along your line of reasoning, you would suggest that Romney must be insane - since he is suggesting the GOP pass something. So either you think Romney is insane - or you have to say he means 'they try to pass.'
2) You are reading and quoting from an indirect source in a paper run by The New Times company. You never get the full quote. If you read the full quote in the source - you will agree with me that your interpretations so far are incorrect.
The problem is you can't read the full source because the link in the Boston Globe doesn't go to the actual story - it just goes to thehill.com. That means you have to do some work. Which I've done for you (you're welcome).
The full quote is here - and it's clear he's not talking about any kind of amnesty:
Romney believes that one way to attract more minorities to the GOP is to [try to] pass immigration reform before the next election, saying the issue becomes demagogued by both parties on the campaign trail.
“We have a natural affinity with Hispanic-American voters, Asian-American voters,” he said.
Speaking in his Ritz-Carlton room with a pair of blue jeans on the dresser, Romney declined to criticize immigration hard-liners like former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), who backed Romney after he dropped his own presidential bid. Romney argued that all 2008 GOP candidates — including Tancredo — strongly favor legal immigration.
I realize you guys went into full battle mode when Palin couldn't name any publications she ever read. And that is fair and I think the media took that quote out of context. It's disappointing to see some of you guys doing the same thing to Romney.
And let me remind you of something else. At CPAC, an event where non-anonymous Conservatives show up and use their real names - not internet phony names they can hide behind - a plurality of them cast votes in their straw poll for Mitt Romney. And I'll tell you another thing - unlike years passed when campaigns would bus folks in and pay their CPAC registration to vote, no campaigns did this.
So how about holding your fire until you have all the facts and not treating your allies the way you treat your enemies?
As for the call for my credentials, I responded to that initially in the previous post.
I just read your signature. Technically, that is correct.
That isn't true, but it is typical.
Yes it is and to squeeze it into a tagline and keep it together was challenging because the full quote is a little longer.
It IS true,
Hmm. Surely there was a better anti-Mitt quote that would fit since that one doesn’t paint him quiet so clearly as a gun-grabber.
So what's your point? Mormons are Christian. Am I not to be trusted for saying that or something? What's the point? I'm sticking up for another religion.
My point was that for months you made the argument as you did there that as a Catholic you were making that statement, and that was always your position, “I am catholic” ‘here is my statement of fact’.
Over the months you simply ignored the Catholic teachings and the Vatican statements posted to you on the subject, you would not respond to the posts but you would continue your “selling”.
That is your style, it consists mostly of narrative selling and personal insults rather than facts, more facts and less posturing would be helpful.
How should I have responded?
A man that thinks that a common sporting rifle is only purchased by Americans to hunt and kill people, I don’t want representing my second amendment rights.
“How should I have responded?”
If you don’t have a link to the video then realize that you can only make your statement or claim, you can’t beat down the quote from RedState by that only and you can cut back on the personal attacks on the people that challenge your view of Mitt Romney, you well know that it looks like FR is going to have to gear up against him as Jim Robinson has said.
I posted “I was Catholic” because I wanted people to know that as a Catholic, I was posting this. So what’s your point? A Catholic can’t say that Mormons are Christian?
No it is your refusal to answer direct questions, You were immediately asked what your catholic faiths official position was and you wouldn't answer I'm not aware of you ever answering, although you still promote your claim using the catholic emphasis. The position was posted to you many times and you refused to acknowledge it, we see you do that on these Romney threads over and over and over, that is why the threads almost seem like duplicates some times.
The Romney people always start fresh as though no one has ever proved a point or that Romney has a well documented history and the level of mental games and denial and evasiveness is mind boggling, no other candidates supporters are anything like the Romney followers.
Did it ever occur to you that I just wanted to simply state my view and not get into a religious debate?
The last thing I want to do is get into long winded debates especially religious ones but that doesn’t mean that you couldn’t answer the direct question, especially when the information was posted to you.
http://www.catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp
Why did you not type “Romey claims to be President” above the AIG chart like you did on numerous occassions? It's on this site for all to see.
And who was it that actually “attacked” Sarah Palin’s “little children” that you typed numerous times? Again, it's on this site for all to see.
OOOh!
Where?
I'd LOVE to see this ANTI-Mitt get his comeuppence!
--MormonDupe(MR in 2010!)
In your DREAMS, D_boy!
You Antis can't REQUIRE us True Believers® to do ANYTHING!!
--MormonDupe(Stuff THAT in your hat along with your PEEPSTONES!!)
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