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The dark side of Dubai
source cannot be posted | 7 April 2009

Posted on 04/08/2009 7:17:34 PM PDT by Lorianne

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: dubai
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To: Lorianne
I'm familiar with Dubai - and your “cultural relativism” comment struck me as creepy. Tell me what you were thinking when you wrote it. Maybe I misunderstood. I'd be more than happy to discuss Dubai with you - are you some kind of relative expert on the subject?
21 posted on 04/09/2009 5:22:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: sickoflibs
There's lots of strange laws in Dubai - maybe too many to check out.

For example - a Caucasian American ( the laws there are different for different racial and religious groups) can drink alcohol in a Dubai hotel. But if he gets in his car and is stopped for a traffic violation AND the police smell alcohol on his breath (maybe he drank half a beer) he is taken to jail on the spot. Where he'll serve two years.

The law is not "drunk driving", or driving while impaired - it's driving while smelling like you've had a drink.

22 posted on 04/09/2009 5:38:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: GOPJ

That one is not a surprise. It’s a Muslim country. This would not be an issue if they didnt have all the money and we didnt have all the debt. Who would go to Dubai except for the money?


23 posted on 04/09/2009 5:57:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs
That one is not a surprise.

No judge, no jury, not even enough alcohol to impair him while driving? Just the "smell" of alcohol - and it's not a "surprise" to you sickoflibs?

He was served the alcohol legally. When the cops smelled it they just put the guy in the back seat of a police car and drove him to the jail.

24 posted on 04/09/2009 6:31:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”No judge, no jury, not even enough alcohol to impair him while driving? Just the “smell” of alcohol - and it's not a “surprise” to you sickoflibs?

No! it's a foreign Muslim country. If you need the $$$ there, don't drink. If you want a vacation, go to Thailand. Again, it's the money that is the attraction.

A shame the USA is not the attractor of businesses. Obama is now on amnesty, planning on getting that voter-government-dependency up so future joblessness and inflation pays off with a solid majority voting base.It's called having nothing but power.

Instead of bankruptcy we have bailouts.

25 posted on 04/09/2009 6:49:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: GOPJ

Did you read the article?


26 posted on 04/09/2009 10:40:48 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Yes I did. Now could you answer my question?


27 posted on 04/09/2009 10:43:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: Lorianne

Do you think that there are people in the USA who are being exploited like the people described in the article? Do you think Americans, even very poor Americans are worse off than people being exploited in as described in the article?


28 posted on 04/09/2009 10:59:01 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: sickoflibs

A lot of people have made a lot of money in Dubai. That IS the draw. But, as everything else in life, there are trade offs. Some people like to gamble.


29 posted on 04/09/2009 11:01:32 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: whitedog57

The slavery of the dark haired, dark eyed people seems pretty bad to me, if the article is accurate.


30 posted on 04/09/2009 11:02:58 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I find it interesting that Tiger Woods has not been questioned on his business interests in Dubai. For all the talk about how “Tiger’s changing the world”, I just don’t see it.


31 posted on 04/09/2009 11:41:28 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: Lorianne
I was just talking to a friend (20 minutes ago) who lived in Dubai - here's some new information along the lines of the story.

There's a main taxi cab company in Dubai - and having left a wallet in the back of a cab, my friend went there to get the wallet back. The room ( which most citizens don't see) was covered with "wanted" posters of people trying to escape: people in debt or who's two year construction contracts weren't up etc...

I didn't ask, but I assume the cabbies (who also live in "dorms" outside the city) - get rewards for turning people in. While dorms for cabbies are better than for construction workers, they're still horrid.

Each cabbie shares a bed with a person who works a different shift. Workers don't even get a bed - just a time when they can sleep in one. And construction workers - they die like flies. Airports have an abandoned car problem. Housing prices fell recently and people just leave everything - car, furniture, everything and tell the authorities they are going on vacation. The lucky ones get out and never come back.

My friend was once a multiculturlist - feeling that all cultures were equal. This person ( who's still a liberal) now feels all cultures have some things of value, but is firmly in the camp of "the United States being (all things considered) the best place to live" - "we won the lotto just being born here"...

That's why my question...

32 posted on 04/09/2009 11:48:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: GOPJ

Well then, we seem to agree.

Even the poorest and most put upon person in the USA is better off than 80% of the world’s population.


33 posted on 04/09/2009 12:16:24 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The number one nutrition related problem of the “poor” in America is not malnutrition, it is obesity.

When being “poor” means you are actually more likely to be fat, being “poor” obviously doesn’t mean the same thing as it used to for most of human history.


34 posted on 04/09/2009 12:21:40 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Lorianne

I think you confused me with someone else - I didn’t say anything about child support... please check the thread - and you’ll see it’s NOT me. My comments were about Dubai - and the almost slave like working conditions there.


35 posted on 04/09/2009 12:31:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: GOPJ
Yes, you responded to my response to sick of libs. I thought you were agreeing with his culturally relativistic post.
36 posted on 04/09/2009 12:53:51 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Nah - on the child support issue, I feel both parents need to support their children. We don't have debtors prisons - we have contempt of court. And if a man really has serious problems - loss of a job - he can go back to court to seek temporary relief.

If the shoe was on the other foot - a woman lost her job, the courts would never let her get away with letting her children starve to death because she "didn't have the money". She would have to figure it out. Same for the man.

The slavery - or very close to it - that exists in Dubai - is NOTHING like paying to support your own children. Sickoflibs is great on many issues - love his economic stuff, but I don't see his stance on child support.

In fact, many of the people working in Dubai are there to support their children - children living in countries that are hell on earth for the poor. They work to send money home - and what's left of the 25 to 50 cents an hour they earn, they "live" on. Many of these good men who go to Dubai for work to feed their families will die there in the process.

Hard for me to feel too sorry for some American dad who doesn't want to support his kids - knowing that the working men who go to Dubai to send money home for their kids - often give up their lives for their children.

37 posted on 04/09/2009 1:24:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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RE :”The slavery - or very close to it - that exists in Dubai - is NOTHING like paying to support your own children. Sickoflibs is great on many issues - love his economic stuff, but I don't see his stance on child support.

They are not paying to support their children, that's another common lie to support the debtors prison. The money goes exclusively to the mother, not the child. She gets exclusive control over it. She can use some of it to support that new boyfriend, in fact that comes up regularly on the judge TV shows where they buy gifts for boyfriends with the money. The judges ACT outraged but can do nothing. They miss that it removes their so called purpose. protect the kids. It's pure slavery. Furthermore, the mom can be the one that broke up the family and get that reward.

Imagine the Dubai father in America forced into family court for the crime of his child's mother leaving him. He's ordered to pay the legal fees of her lawyer, even if not married, he refuses and is thrown in jail with no trial, no due process, no rights. Our version of Dubai justice.His crime? Sex while being a man.

Add that the woman can kill his unbborn child(abortion) , but if she doesnt he is a marked man. Where is HIS right to privacy after having sex with her? It's a joke, the product of deluded moral outrage and feminists that knew how tio break up families.

38 posted on 04/09/2009 1:39:45 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: GOPJ

BTW: Thanks for throwing in the complement! :)


39 posted on 04/09/2009 1:45:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs

Men wanted no-fault divorce. Male legislators passed these laws. Men did it to themselves.

If you think it compares with Islam, you’re in for a shock.


40 posted on 04/09/2009 1:59:45 PM PDT by donna (President Obama bows to King Abdullah in humble obeisance, acknowledging his inferior status.)
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