The Catholic identity crisis

New York Daily News ^ | Wednesday, April 8th 2009 | S.E. Cupp

[don-o]

Ouch.

[al_c]

As Easter approaches, in addition to looking upward, Catholics would be wise to look inward this year

Yep! I'm amazed at how many of my brethren voted for and still support TOTUS and his anti-Christian policies.

[Earthdweller]

"...someone whose abortion position is, even by some liberal accounts, extreme."

He's a murderer. The Church and ND are giving an honor to a murderer.

If you think this won't hurt the Church overall, you haven't a brain cell in your head.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Big on style, true.

Not “questionable” on substance — absolutely negative on substance. Hates most of what they stand for.

[EyeGuy]

“Catholic Identity Crisis”.

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I wonder why.

Is the staunchly, in-your-face, pro-abortion Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi still allowed to receive Holy Communion at her local parish?

[HiTech RedNeck]

The pinnacle of this folly is the honorary degree they intend to give Obama. I wonder whether most of the mob writing in to favor Obama’s appearance at the commencement even has an idea they are going to do that too?

Church, church, church. You love Caesar too much.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Is it the money? Is it their fear that if they get too assertive towards the politicians in their ranks, the church will lose its tax exempt status and thus suffer in donations?

The love of money is the root of all...

[meandog]

Catholics have always played an uneasy role in presidential politics....John Kerry wasn't Catholic enough, and so we watched him awkwardly cozy up to Catholic voters by publicly attending Mass. And last year, 53% of them seemingly put one of the most important tenets of their belief system on hold and anointed a pro-choice President. If Notre Dame is having a hard time explaining its invitation to Obama, Catholics will have an even harder time explaining their vote in 2008.

Because American "Catholics" act more like Episcopalians than Roman Catholics (Those in Ireland, Poland, etc.)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"Many Catholics are angry that the University of Notre Dame, a private Catholic institution with a 90% Christian enrollment and a crucifix in every classroom, has asked President Obama to speak at its coming commencement.... Their collective outrage is understandable. Obama is one of the most liberal pro-choice Democrats on record, and someone whose abortion position is, even by some liberal accounts, extreme."

Make no mistake , the people promoting this kind of stuff are not believing Catholics. The colleges were infiltrated by liberals, perverts, heretics, and anti-Catholics. Which category he falls into, take your pick.

[presidio9]

[EyeGuy]

“Is it the money? Is it their fear that if they get too assertive towards the politicians in their ranks, the church will lose its tax exempt status and thus suffer in donations?”

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I don’t believe it is money. It is more a matter of tone in my opinion.

In the specific case of the Holy Father’s (whose spirituality and devotion to doing what is right for the Church is absolute and highly admirable), dealings with Pelosi, I felt her admonition should have been more palpable, public and overt. SOME Catholics here disagree with that assessment, so we have a little schism here of our own. LOL.

[presidio9]

What little respect I had for Notre Dame is now gone. Imagine Yeshiva University invting Jimmy Carter to give their keynote address, or Mike Huckabee at Brigham Young. This is a million times worse.

[presidio9]

ping

[HiTech RedNeck]

I guess I can see them wanting to keep it private for decorum’s sake.

But as one Arrogant Bustard suggested, it’s scandalizing. If an organization claiming to be a church of Jesus Christ seems to be doing nothing about its own powerful people spitting in the face of things that the Bible says that God wants, then it makes people wonder if the name of Jesus Christ means anything at all.

And they can pretty well predict that Nancy will NOT listen. So why not make it bold.

[EyeGuy]

The Catholic heirarchy appears to be institutionally averse to drawing a line in the sand. A generous shot of testosterone is sorely needed.

Without ACTIVE, staunch, and rigid adherence to Her dogma, the Church is nothing.

Perhaps, Notre Dame will serve as a catalyst to a great awakening. We shall see.

[EyeGuy]

The Catholic heirarchy appears to be institutionally averse to drawing a line in the sand. A generous shot of testosterone is sorely needed.

Without ACTIVE, staunch, and rigid adherence to Her dogma, the Church is nothing.

Perhaps, Notre Dame will serve as a catalyst to a great awakening. We shall see.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I guess Huckabee doesn’t care too much for Mormon churches, huh.

But at least he does care about most of the moral values that BYU would, and could be persuaded to stick to those topics.

What is Obama going to spew about at Notre Dame, anyhow? “Social justice”? Lots of nice platitudes which hide his real agenda, which is bad enough as it is? Then put abortion on top of that.

[EyeGuy]

“And they can pretty well predict that Nancy will NOT listen. So why not make it bold.”

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Amen. Amen I say to you.

My point exactly.

Ask the average Catholic, let alone the Christian population at large, what they know about the Pope’s meeting with Pelosi and your point is palpably illustrated.

Yes, the matter of Pelosi’s soul is a private matter, but the Pope also needs to set the tone and lead the way for the Catholic laity. If that requires making a bold public example of Pelosi , so be it.

[presidio9]

"Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?" -Mike Huckabee