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To: wardaddy

>> last November Obama won precisely due to the brown vote which along with a monolithic black vote can ensure socialism forever baring a cataclysmic event.

Politics is not a racial math problem.

If you believe demographics are the only reason McCain lost, then there’s not much I can say. Perhaps they played a part, but I doubt heavily that they were a deciding factor (particularly outside the African American population). But, if you (or the GOP) reduce politics to a racial math problem, we will always lose.

McCain lost primarily because he lacked vision, lacked principles, and thus failed to explain conservatism to the voters. He also lost because Bush was unpopular, and two-term Presidency is rarely good for the Party in the following election. He lost because Obama falsely portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative (or at least on par with McCain in that regard).

>> We argued all this before you got here over the illegal invasion ...

Before I got where? I am on your side on the “illegal invasion”. Slam the doors shut and arrest the criminals. However, I do not, and will not, equate illegal immigrants with ALL immigrants. I have no problem whatsoever with people who follow the rules. I refuse to single honest people out for disdain based solely on their race.

>> I hope you’re happy with all of it though. We tried to warn you.

Though I disagree with your diagnosis, I am no more happy with this state of affairs than you are. And I’ll warn you — if you (or the GOP) continue to concede non-whites to the Democrats, we will have a rough go. They’re just people, living life like you and I ... they can be convinced.

Conservatism is an inherently reasoned philosophy, and we must do a better job of conveying our principles to whites and non-whites alike. It may take another Reagan to do so, but it is possible ... and it may be our last best hope.

SnakeDoc


83 posted on 04/08/2009 1:25:47 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but ... the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: SnakeDoctor; raybbr

like I said...kumbaya logic with no facts presented.

actually it’s all about race for you not me, in your case it’s the denial of the obvious fact race plays in how folks vote, your wishful thinking notwithstanding.

likewise like typical RINO moderate you put words in my mouth I never uttered:

I never said race voting blocs were the ONLY reason McCain lost.
You said that and then expounded on other reasons he lost....all of which are quite valid but again 55% of whites voted for him and he lost...the first time in history a candidate with that level of white support lost.

a bad omen considering how minorities vote

btw...ou can see this happening all over the white Christian world where minorities and Muslims are eroding once predominate white influence on culture and voting habits.

it’s not pretty there either.

at some point soon Europe will be Islamic at least as plurality

and here the brown wave will ensure Dem control forever....liek I said baring cataclysm

if you have any proof to bolster your noble claim that the opposite is true then by all means submit it, otherwise I think most of us on this forum understand your position and it’s inherent foolhardiness

that is unless you are like a number of folks here and are yourself a minority and like this getback time regardless of how it drives our nation ever further leftward.

I find it amusing that you claim race is not a factor in one paragraph and then in the next paragraph claim the black vote is indeed that. Well I got news for you so is the latino vote more or less about like the Jewish vote...(except the Jewish vote in 1980 after Carter’s Sadat foolishness went for Magnus)

regards


88 posted on 04/08/2009 4:22:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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