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I really don’t see why you got your back all up on this. Facts are facts. Intentionally have a kid out of wedlock = very high probability of raising a criminal.

Why I got my back all "up" on this is because you did not say anything about 'odds'. You stated 40% of births are out of wedlock followed immediately by "ie future criminals", ie means "that is" or "in other words"... essentially you said that any child born out of wedlock is destined to be a future criminal.

That you can't own up to a preposterous generalization says volumes about your character. As a conservative, I say what I mean and mean what I say. You injected a completely unrelated point, and added a ridiculous generalization in the process, in a thread about immigration and I would say that there are many God-fearing conservatives in this country that believe as strongly as you do that a traditional family is the best environment in which to bring up a child, but due to various circumstances, didn't end up realizing that model. But yet, many of these people managed to bring up excellent members of society and I take great offense to someone sweeping a great segment of society with such a broad brush as yourself.

I acknowledge fully your point that a non-nuclear family is not the best evironment to bring up a child. But your continued defense of your original statement is despicable.

Good day to you.

So what are u bitchin about knckle?

a poster makes generalized a statement that you only partially disagree with and you become thread God over it?

who's being the jerk here?

Mr B's point is pretty commonly accepted by most folks when he equates illegitimacy with future criminals....the correlation is acute to say the least

examine blacks:

70-80% illegitimacy rates

crime rate for them is 8 times that of whites.

go figure eh?

exactly how many illegitimate kids become criminals is hard to figure...nobody really wants to touch it anyhow now that this year they are the majority of births.....Sowell has written on it a bit as have some folks at sites like Vdare not allowed here (?)

the percentage of the US that are felons is much higher than 3%, it's actually around 10%