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To: VRWCTexan

Well, it’s easy for Obama to express his opinion for the *results* of what will happen in “France’s backyard”.... LOL...

It’s France and Europe that will have to live with the consequences of it...

But, as I see it, Turkey is going to be turned away from the EU (more or less “permanently”) and Turkey will finally move more solidly over into the Islamic world, after having tried to become more “westernized” over the last few decades. Turkey will end up giving up on this and instead of becoming more westernized, they will become more “Islamisized” instead — and move towards the radical end of Islam....


19 posted on 04/05/2009 8:42:41 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

ottoman ottoman ottoman...........they (islam, not just turks) will never repeat never give up the fantasy and goal of resurrecting it......the ottoman empire was the greatest progress ever in the history of jihad/da’wa....the goal has never changed, which is why the muslim brotherhood was formed immediately after ottoman was smashed......


23 posted on 04/05/2009 8:51:24 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Star Traveler

I have spent some time in Turkey and interviewed Turkish businessmen. This is THE Muslim nation that could change the world for the better. Turks see entrepreneurship, world class education, and economic growth as major forces in Turkish life. I have worked with Turkish academics and they strive and succeed as excellent examples not only to Turks but to American and other intellectuals. They have their own terrorist problems to deal with and live in a sometimes tense world between the Black Sea and Greece. There is a world of difference between Turkey and Iran or Syria. I even met Israeli businessmen operating in Istanbul. Don’t reject Turkey because they are Muslim—Turkey could be the key to a better future for both West and East.

But, don’t for a second do I think BO knows what he’s doing. If BO was guiding the entry of Turkey, I believe he would set Turkey AND the EU back. He appeals to the retrograde elements around the world, not the forward and freedom-loving peoples. Turkey would be well advised to eye his support warily.

To those Europeans who have had problems with Turkish immigrants, I note that those immigrants may be the same folks who flood Istanbul and cause the same problems in Turkey. Turkey itself has as similar problem as France or Germany.

Just my observations—no insults intended.


47 posted on 04/05/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by iacovatx (If you must lie to recruit to your cause, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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To: Star Traveler
Turkey is becoming more islamic as we speak, and has been for the last several years. The days of the secular Ataturk experiment are over and the clock is counting down. Turkeys' days as a western ally are just about done, and europe knows it.

BTW did the media report on the large islamic protests in Turkey against Obama's visit?

58 posted on 04/05/2009 11:43:07 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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