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Off Base on Terror: Judge's Decision Throws Open U.S. Courthouse Doors to Our Worst Enemies
New York Daily News ^ | April 4th 2009 | staff

Posted on 04/04/2009 6:12:19 AM PDT by kellynla

A federal judge has taken the fateful step of ruling that three of the 600 prisoners at Bagram air base in Afghanistan have rights under the U.S. Constitution. This is dangerous folly.

One can only pray that higher courts reject Judge John Bates' premise that noncitizens are not barred - as long thought - from contesting war captivity abroad in American civilian courts.

While Bates emphasized the distinct circumstances of the three, he built his holding on the notion that U.S. control of Bagram gave prisoners a leg up on getting into court.

Activists who have taken up the cause of the detainees were ecstatic. Tina Foster, of the International Justice Network, said the Bates ruling would extend "to any place where the United States seeks to hold individuals in a legal black hole."

Presidents Bush and Obama - yes, Obama - argued against opening our courts to terror suspects abroad. But Bates drew his reasoning from the 2008 Supreme Court decision that foolishly granted Guantanamo detainees habeas corpus rights.

At the time, it was thought the effects of that case would go no further than Gitmo. That base in Cuba was seen as American territory for constitutional purposes because the U.S. controlled it under a long-term lease.

But now Bates has said the military has an "objective degree of control" at Bagram, putting prisoners, in effect, on U.S. soil. Then he applied a "functional, multi-factor, detainee-by-detainee test" to gauge rights.

He gave three detainees - two Yemenis and one Tunisian - access to federal courts because they had been apprehended elsewhere and taken to Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: habeascorpus; habeuscorpus; nowot; terrorists; waronterror

1 posted on 04/04/2009 6:12:20 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

So as an american you cannot sue someone you think has harmed you if the court says you have no standing yet foreign armies can have access to our courts.


2 posted on 04/04/2009 6:15:07 AM PDT by edcoil (Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner Liberty is a well-armed lamb)
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To: kellynla

Can this be appealed?


3 posted on 04/04/2009 6:17:27 AM PDT by freedom4me (Hate evil, love good; maintain justice in the courts. Amos 5:15)
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To: freedom4me

“Can this be appealed?”

yep


4 posted on 04/04/2009 6:21:53 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

It is time for these judges to be taken care of. The men in black are ruining this country along with the SOB we have for a president.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 6:35:15 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year military veteran of Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: kellynla

The enemy within will always be more destructive than any foreign entity.


6 posted on 04/04/2009 6:37:45 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: ArchAngel1983

I’m guessing the end result will be less and less live ones leaving the field of battle...not such a bad thing in the end.


7 posted on 04/04/2009 6:42:46 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: kellynla

And believe it or not, this smack-off was appointed by Bush II!


8 posted on 04/04/2009 7:26:59 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Well, hell, Reagan appointed Kennedy & O’Conner to the Supremes and I won't even get into appointments made by Nixon, Ford & Bush the First ...so there have been plenty of mistakes to go around made by GOP POTUS when it comes to appointing judges
9 posted on 04/04/2009 7:38:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Having seen prisoners of war now magically turned into common criminals by judicial fiat, it certainly makes one wonder just long it will before these judicial mental midgets decide to grant "Constitutional rights" to enemy combatants during combat.

Will our soldiers and Marines have to shout Miranda rights across the battlefield before engaging the enemy?

I now know how proud Britons felt as their great country was nibbled down by the traitorous left.

10 posted on 04/04/2009 7:45:50 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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“Will our soldiers and Marines have to shout Miranda rights across the battlefield before engaging the enemy?”

I can't speak for the other services, but I expect the Corps will go back to the ol’ school SOP of “shoot first & ask questions...if anyone is left alive”

Semper Fi,
Kelly

11 posted on 04/04/2009 7:52:10 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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