Posted on 04/04/2009 4:35:53 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
Two Protestant groups are moving towards allowing the ordination of homosexuals in long-term monogamous relationships as ministers.
The governing council of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the largest Lutheran organization, voted this week to have a vote in the national assembly on the issue, The Christian Science Monitor reported. The Presbyterian Church (USA) approved homosexual ordination last year, but it will not take effect unless two-thirds of the presbyteries, the 173 district councils, vote in favor by June.
Both groups already allow homosexuals to be ordained if they are celibate.
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I sure am glad I work and live in Germany for the next 4 years – it’s coming; he won’t let this continue much longer.
Beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
The Left has been infiltrating the church for decades. Just as they took over academe in order to indoctrinate, so they’ve been taking over the church.
I'm pretty sure Germany is on His short list, brother. Get ready.
Good grief. What kind of evangelicals are these pro-homosexual Evangelical Lutherans? How do they witness? How do they approach someone on the street?
Maybe it goes something like this:
Hello, sir, how are you?
Do you consider yourself a spiritual person?
You’re gay?
No matter. Evangelical Lutherans welcome you. Do you know anything about us? Don’t worry about those sections in Deuteronomy or the New Testament condemning homosexuality.
Well, just don’t worry. They can be interpreted in different ways.
Well, they can.
Yes, they can.
Me? Evangelical Lutheran.
Yes, I do believe in the Bible.
No, not all of it. No, that’s wrong! Really, I do. It can be interpreted in different ways.
Evangelical Lutheran.
Yes, evangelical. Evangelical Lutheran.
How many people have I converted?
I guess, not many.
Evagelical Lutheran.
Yes, evangelical!
That’s cruel.
I hope nobody here is fooled.
No person who practices sexual immorality, including homosexuality, will be given the free gift of salvation. Revelation 22:15. Further, a person is judged by what they approve of. (Romans 14:22)
Mr. niteowl77
Just one reason why I am no longer a Presbyterian.
I am a non-believer, but those of you who beleive in the Bible, must step back and reevaluate your leadership. Most of them are non-believers also. The Bible and New Testament in particular are very clear about homosexuality. In my opinion, a half-assed Christian is a half-assed Atheist.
Kind of like the Methodist Moto: "Open Minds, Open Hearts, Open Sewers".....or somethin like that.
Yes. John Wesley and George Whitfield are turning in their graves.
Good bye to these protestant denominations. !!
Very Sad !!!
Well said. I am a believer, I often wonder what kind of example we set. If our sinful actions cause others to reject the Good News, then we will be held accountable for that. My only caveat is this: Even though I am a Christian and believe what the Good Book says - I find myself coming up woefully short of its ideals. Becoming a Christian isn’t a one time act, it is a life long journey. JMHO. Hope you have a good day!-JM
They are not evangelical. They are a closed, dying group which has grandiose delusions of viability. Like most of the moribund mainline, they desperately huff and puff about "multiculturalism" and "inclusiveness," but it is all a charade.
The homosexual lobby in these churches cares nothing for the gospel. They are political operatives who, like cancer, will destroy their host. But they will get some nice buildings to make into homosexual brothels, complete with altar and pretty windows. Maybe a nice organ to play Elton John's greatest hits.
The funny part is that while they are committing sexual suicide they continue to posture about becoming Multicultural, trying to gain members from, say, the hispanic and black communities, since the anglo population has given up on them.
I'm sure there are a host of blacks and hispanics just waiting to join a Lutheran church with a cheesy lesbian or homosexual pastor and his/her/its "partner" prancing along beside.
This is the big open secret among the liberal protestant churches generally. You are right. A large percentage, may or may not be a majority yet, think all that sin-and-redemption son of god/ resurrection crap is just a collection of myths. They are no more nor less than social worker mentalities with funny collars and costumes on.
This is also why these churches are dying. The Holy Spirit got Its hat and left these shams to their false prophets and their fate.
I agree, it’s a top down situation. The pro-gay proposition was voted down a few years ago, but the issue just keeps re-emerging. Personally, I hope it splits the denomination wide open and then the faithful can have their churches and the funny fellows can have their rainbow stoles and lost souls without contaminating anyone but themselves.
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The REAL evangelical lutherans are the LCMS, WELS and other small conservative synods. There are some of us out there, and we cringe at what our largest denomination is doing!
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