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Why Legalizing Marijuana Makes Sense
Time Magazine ^ | Joe Klein

Posted on 04/03/2009 5:15:06 PM PDT by sdcraigo

For the past several years, I've been harboring a fantasy, a last political crusade for the baby-boom generation. We, who started on the path of righteousness, marching for civil rights and against the war in Vietnam, need to find an appropriately high-minded approach to life's exit ramp...I even have a slogan for the campaign: "Tune in, turn on, drop dead." A fantasy, I suppose. But, beneath the furious roil of the economic crisis, a national conversation has quietly begun about the irrationality of our drug laws. It is going on in state legislatures, like New York's, where the draconian Rockefeller drug laws are up for review; in other states, from California to Massachusetts, various forms of marijuana decriminalization are being enacted. And it has reached the floor of Congress, where Senators Jim Webb and Arlen Specter have proposed a major prison-reform package, which would directly address drug-sentencing policy. ...The hypocrisy inherent in the American conversation about stimulants is staggering. But there are big issues here, issues of economy and simple justice, especially on the sentencing side. As Webb pointed out in a cover story in Parade magazine, the U.S. is, by far, the most "criminal" country in the world, with 5% of the world's population and 25% of its prisoners. We spend $68 billion per year on corrections, and one-third of those being corrected are serving time for nonviolent drug crimes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheechandchong; marijuana; potheads; potlegalization; wod
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To: sdcraigo
"one-third of those being corrected are serving time for nonviolent drug crimes."

How disengenuos." Most drug dealers, drug cartel members are committing "non-violent drug crimes" until they have to whack somebody. 1/3 of prisoners in this country aren't in prison for breaking up an ounce of pot with their buddies.

Take the profit out of selling dope and the gangsters doing it will find another criminal enterprise like kidnapping and home invasions.

21 posted on 04/03/2009 5:41:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: sdcraigo

I actually agree with legalizing marijuana, and then taxing the hell out of it.


22 posted on 04/03/2009 5:46:30 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: sdcraigo

Legalizing “happy smoke”, no matter which party does it, will triple the size of the DemocRATS’ voter base. Good move here for the ‘RATS.


23 posted on 04/03/2009 5:47:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We're All Garbage Dump Bears Now!)
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To: the_Watchman

potheads don’t give a CRAP about anything besides pot. That is ALL that matters.

The rest is just silly diversions to their addiction and mental problems.


24 posted on 04/03/2009 5:47:49 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: the_Watchman
Hey!? Is that you Cheech?!

Remember Ashly Roachclip's excuse for legalizing marijuana?

25 posted on 04/03/2009 5:49:26 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: sdcraigo

It’s illegal because it’s immoral, not immoral because it’s illegal.


26 posted on 04/03/2009 5:52:59 PM PDT by zipper ( If God is your copilot, you're in the wrong seat!)
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To: zipper

Is alcohol immoral?


27 posted on 04/03/2009 5:55:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: saganite

28 posted on 04/03/2009 5:57:13 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Unknowing

There is water at the bottom of the ocean.


29 posted on 04/03/2009 6:00:10 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: Don Corleone

When is the last time you saw a pothead go on a shooting rampage ?


30 posted on 04/03/2009 6:01:02 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Boardwalk

“Weed will get you through the times of no money better than money will get you through the times of no weed”... Furry Freak Brothers


31 posted on 04/03/2009 6:01:09 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Uncle Meat
Remember Ashly Roachclip's excuse for legalizing marijuana?

No, despite my allusion to Cheech and Chong I have actually seen none of their material. I suppose you might enlighten us? :)

32 posted on 04/03/2009 6:01:30 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: sdcraigo

33 posted on 04/03/2009 6:03:02 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: sdcraigo
I know a lot of pot smokers...and they are all liberals.

Legalize it! And watch them disappear into a purple haze.

On voting day, they will be too busy to go.

Make it legal and tax them for what they previously paid for dealer protection.

Offer rehab to those strong enough to resist...they are the conservatives.

34 posted on 04/03/2009 6:03:08 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("I am not your enemy...I only seek the truth")
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To: sdcraigo; All

Before he died, William F. Buckley Jr., founder and once senior editor of National Review - “Mr. Conservative” in my youth - wrote articles, a number of times, discussing why HE was in favor of ‘decriminalization’ of Marijuana.

Those looking for, or who think they have, a “Conservative” position on this issue should at least look at what Mr. Buckley said about it. No one can doubt his Conservative credentials or his lack of intellectual rigor.

As for hard-drugs, from the opiate class, I think a program that offers addiction-treatment, in separate, mandatory treatment facilities, for minor offenses, instead of regular prison, in exchange for identification of suppliers, all the way up the chain, would be more affective at ending the drug networks than has the massive imprisonment-for-minor-offenses practiced over the past forty years. Offer help to get out of the drug-life in exchange for their help in getting to those running the drug rings. I think it would cost less and I think it would be more affective, in the long run.

What cannot be ignored though is that ‘addiction’ is often a personality behavioral condition, and alcohol, cocaine and the rest are merely choices that satisfy an inclination to addictive behavior. What also should not be ignored is that the person can be helped to break addictive behavior but prison is seldom the route that does that - prison life is so corrupt, rarely does an addiction have to be postponed while incarcerated.


35 posted on 04/03/2009 6:03:24 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake

Nice slogan for the product! I can picture Obama reading it from the telepromter.


36 posted on 04/03/2009 6:06:15 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Don Corleone
Especially if you want to double the number of cars coming at you after jumping the median,or the number of spaced out characters shooting up a mall or beating their spouses or doing all the other nutty things that those freaked out on drugs seem to do, like voting Democratic.

Holy Crap! Maybe you didn't know this but... "Reefer Madness" was NOT a documentary.

37 posted on 04/03/2009 6:12:13 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: sdcraigo
the U.S. is, by far, the most "criminal" country in the world, with 5% of the world's population and 25% of its prisoners

This stat is probably horse hocky, but...

1) third world countries and dictatorships tend to execute their criminals more often. And guess what? They have less prisoners that way. Meanwhile, European countries only sentence their murderers to 5 years in jail. And guess what? Less prisoners.

2) Something like a third of all prisoners in California state prisons are illegal aliens. Why do they come here to commit crimes? Because, like the old bank robber said, that's where the money is. Would anybody sneak into El Salvador to get rich through crime (other than El Presidente)?
38 posted on 04/03/2009 6:13:09 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Tolsti2
potheads don’t give a CRAP about anything besides pot. That is ALL that matters.

The rest is just silly diversions to their addiction and mental problems.


Someone posts an article about pot and suddenly everybody is a clinical psychologist? What do you really know about the effects of pot (not that it is relevant to the legality question)? I'm willing to bet that you don't know a damn thing, considering that the professionals can't even agree on long term effects. You appear to be an expert on how to swallow propaganda whole, though.
39 posted on 04/03/2009 6:16:27 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Eagles6
Take the profit out of selling dope and the gangsters doing it will find another criminal enterprise like kidnapping and home invasions.

The cartels have already branched out into other illegal activities¹, so the upside for revenue is limited. They are conglomerates of crime, and marijuana provides nearly 2/3 of their revenue according to the ONDCP.² Legalization would be a severe blow to the cartels.

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¹ They operate a range of illicit businesses from the regular extortion of street vendors to charging other groups for passage through their territory, to gun and drug smuggling, human smuggling, kidnapping for ransom, money laundering and the operation of a vast network of illegal businesses.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?id=97554&lng=en

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²John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said marijuana, not heroin or cocaine, is the "bread and butter," "the center of gravity" for Mexican drug cartels that every year smuggle tons of it through the porous U.S.-Mexico border. Of the $13.8 billion that Americans contributed to Mexican drug traffickers in 2004-05, about 62 percent, or $8.6 billion, comes from marijuana consumption.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

40 posted on 04/03/2009 6:20:59 PM PDT by Ken H
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