Posted on 04/02/2009 9:08:54 AM PDT by TaraP
MOSCOW. (Andrei Kislyakov, for RIA Novosti) - So do UFOs with little green men inside exist or not? CNN supposedly filmed a UFO moving at a great speed from the right to the left during the inauguration of President Barack Obama. (But those who watched the replay say it was a bird.)
After that, former President Clinton's White House Chief John Podesta, now one of Obama's closest associates, demanded that the thick UFO files be made public.
The number of UFO sightings has dramatically increased in recent times. According to Britain's Ministry of Defense, there were supposedly 285 UFO sightings in the UK in 2008, double the figure for 2007, when the number of alleged UFO sightings was reckoned at 137. (UFOs attacking Ukraine. Video UFO seen over Moscow during Russia - Netherlands match.
The defense departments of the United States and the Soviet Union scrupulously registered alleged sightings of UFOs for decades. American ufologists say that the U.S. authorities were quite serious about the UFO question in the 1940s through 1960s.
Project Blue Book, terminated in 1969, had two goals: to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and to scientifically analyze UFO-related data.
The USAF concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security. Paradoxically, the military still refuse to provide information about UFOs for security reasons.
Ufologists insist that the USAF must give them access to certain documents, such as Project Moon Dust and Project Blue Fly.
Project Moon Dust was started in 1953, ostensibly to recover "returning space debris." Operation Blue Fly was launched to facilitate expeditious delivery to Foreign Technology Division of moon dust and other items of great technological intelligence interest. It is assumed that they were in fact connected with UFOs.
According to ufologists, the U.S. military also have kept the bodies of extraterrestrials who died in spaceship crashes over the United States.
The most widely known of such episodes, the Roswell Incident, took place in New Mexico on July 2, 1947, when an object crash-landed on a ranch approximately 75 miles northwest of Roswell, leaving a large field of debris.
The local air base at Roswell investigated the incident and announced that they had recovered a "flying disk." In fact, the crash was seen by a number of people. There were allegedly alien bodies found in the disk, but the film showing their autopsy was later denounced as a fraud.
If UFOs existed and military units were investigating them, there should also be a place for their deployment. This is Area 51, also known as Groom Lake, a secret military facility about 90 miles north of Las Vegas. At the center of it there is a large air base the government will not discuss about. The Roswell story speaks of alien bodies and wreckage being taken to a "Hangar 18" in Area 51.
Space photographs of the area show a huge landing strip crisscrossing the area and strange circles that can be interpreted as traces of landing of huge "flying saucers." Ufologists are convinced that this is so.
As President, George W. Bush moved Area 51 from the Nevada jurisdiction to that of the Pentagon and Washington. Slightly more than 10 years ago, civilian aircraft were prohibited to fly over the area.
The archives of the former Soviet Union are filled to capacity with data about contacts with extraterrestrials. They contain records of over 20,000 UFO sightings. The Academy of Sciences and the Defense Ministry both undertook investigations under the secret project names of Setka, Galaktika and Gorizont.
It is even said that "competent agencies," meaning the secret services, established contact with aliens and waited for their arrival to Earth. The media is now writing about a team of General Staff officers and academicians waiting for the arrival of an UFO in the Kyzylkum desert in June 1991.
Clearly, humans will always strive to search for beings of humanoid form in the Universe. But it is also apparent that apart from tall tales about "little green men" there are also facts that logically point to the presence of alien intelligence on the Earth.
In this case, maybe the time has come for the U.S. and Russian authorities to declassify information on unidentified flying objects and their masters?
What's the matter, sweetheart? Fistella turn you down again?
Jessup, no doubt being a flying saucer fringe kook is synonymous with almost unbearable loneliness. I’m going to make a run to the nursing home this afternoon, so give me your room number and I’ll pop my head in for a minute.
Be forewarned - no matter how much you beg and plead, I will not loosen your straps.
Good post - thank Xenu somebody is retaining their sense of humor!
Some posts on this thread veer frightfully close to the postings of former FReeper f.christian, without his characteristic terseness, unfortunately.
You can have your sherbet. I like strawberry ice cream. :)
Calculating intelligent life on other worlds and the possibility of them and us meeting has pluses and minuses, both of which need to be considered.
On the plus side, there are 200 to 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. While only a percentage of these can support intelligent life, it is likely to still be a substantial number. This is calculated with the Drake Equation:
N=(R*)(Ns)(Fp)(Ne)(Fl)(Fi)(Fc)(L)
* N = Number of civilizations we can communicate with
* R* = Average star formation rate
* Ns = Percentage of stars capable of supporting earth-like planets
* Fp = Percentage of those stars with planets
* Ne = Average number of planets in those stars’ habitable zones
* Fl = Percentage of those planets where life begins
* Fi = Percentage of planets with life where an intelligent species evolves
* Fc = Percentage of those intelligent species that develop communication technology
* L = Average lifetime, in years, of a civilization that develops such technology
However, there are some pretty harsh minuses that also have to be considered.
To start with, the Milky Way galaxy is about 13 billion years old, but the Earth is only about 4.5 billion years old. The window of intelligent humanity is only about 100,000 years old. The window of intelligent humanity capable of communicating outside of our world in any way is less than 35 years.
The odds of a civilization paralleling us in time is small, even if their civilization lasts 1 million years. In 13 billion years, there are 13,000 such windows of time. Vast numbers of civilizations have likely existed and died out before us, and vast numbers are still to come after us, and we will never meet.
The other grand problem is distance. The closest star to our sun is four light years away. These distances get into Obama-sized numbers, with just 1 light year being about 5.8 Trillion miles. An Earth like habitable planet may be 200 light years away, and an Earth like habitable planet with any life on it may be 1,000 light years away.
So to find a planet with intelligent life anywhere near us is going to be a major long shot. And remember, it works both ways. Even if they have very advanced technology, they might have to survey through hundreds of thousands of stars with Earth like conditions, to find us.
If they are just a few thousand light years away and look at Earth, what are the odds they will notice the early ancient Egyptians or their peers?
Add to that the zinger that if they want to meet us, they need to cross those vast distances faster than light by a long chalk. Even just 2,000 light years away, they would need to travel 2,000 times the speed of light just to get here in a year of travel. Then just as fast to get home in a second year.
Of course there are lots of twists an turns to this as well. The Milky Way galaxy is not fair or equal in many ways. There are sectors of the galaxy that have been sterilized by cosmic events, literally blasted with so much radiation from an exploding star that any life in that region would have been instantly killed, though the planets remain.
Our own Earth has been wiped out by catastrophic events several times, that likely would have killed all life, so back to square one.
All told, the Milky Way galaxy may be teeming with intelligent life, but the odds of a UFO making it to Earth are very small.
Have you ever known a reptile to pay his taxes on time? I think that this rules out “alien”.
From the rants its hard to tell.
Flying saucer fringies shalt not throw stones.
And you were right. It doesn't matter which site you think is the best, the most erudite, whatever. The simple fact remains that, though they're not quite masters of the King's English, even drooling toddlers can see through the nonsense of the kook fringies.
Don't forget to pin your name and room number on your lapel. And have fun!
I always have fun. :)
Unless you are a kool aid sippin' true believer, it all looks the same. But you folks don't seem to get that.
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