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To: AUH2O Repub

Guess what, I would prefer that no US President touch any Saudi POS, but there is a drastic, monumental difference between what President Bush did and what the Obamanation just did. In many cultures there are expressions of regard which are different from what we do in America, but which do not express subservience, submission, and fealty to another.

What Pres. Bush did was simply what is often done as a gesture of friendship between men in the Middle East, just as in Europe men often kiss on the cheek which would not be comfortable or common with American males. I would prefer that no US Pres. be so chummy with the Saudis, but Pres. Bush did not display submission, he did not grovel and declare himself subservient to King Abdullah, as Obambi did.

But the deep bow from the waist, down to the level of the Saudi King’s waist, is certainly recognized in almost any culture as a gesture of submission and subservience. Most definitely it is recognized as such in Arab and Muslim cultures, which is why the Saudi King told his own subjects in 2005 that no Muslim should bow before any other Muslim, not even royalty, but only before Allah.

Obamanation has degraded himself below the lowliest occupant of the Saudi Kingdom, in the eyes of the entire Muslim and Arab civilizations. If you think that won’t be noticed or won’t have any effect on how Obama is regarded in the world, I don’t want what you’re smoking.

Whether the liberal Mediascum takes up this issue or not (obviously they are trying to ignore it) is separate from whether this SHOULD be a big issue.


919 posted on 04/03/2009 10:28:54 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama Grovels Before Saudi King --- Our Founders are Spinning in their Graves)
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To: Enchante
Excellent comments, need repeating:

Guess what, I would prefer that no US President touch any Saudi POS, but there is a drastic, monumental difference between what President Bush did and what the Obamanation just did. In many cultures there are expressions of regard which are different from what we do in America, but which do not express subservience, submission, and fealty to another.

What Pres. Bush did was simply what is often done as a gesture of friendship between men in the Middle East, just as in Europe men often kiss on the cheek which would not be comfortable or common with American males. I would prefer that no US Pres. be so chummy with the Saudis, but Pres. Bush did not display submission, he did not grovel and declare himself subservient to King Abdullah, as Obambi did.

But the deep bow from the waist, down to the level of the Saudi King’s waist, is certainly recognized in almost any culture as a gesture of submission and subservience. Most definitely it is recognized as such in Arab and Muslim cultures, which is why the Saudi King told his own subjects in 2005 that no Muslim should bow before any other Muslim, not even royalty, but only before Allah.

Obamanation has degraded himself below the lowliest occupant of the Saudi Kingdom, in the eyes of the entire Muslim and Arab civilizations. If you think that won’t be noticed or won’t have any effect on how Obama is regarded in the world, I don’t want what you’re smoking.

Whether the liberal Mediascum takes up this issue or not (obviously they are trying to ignore it) is separate from whether this SHOULD be a big issue.

942 posted on 04/03/2009 1:56:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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