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Trade war with Mexico could devastate Washington state growers
The Miami Herald ^ | March 31, 2009 | Les Blumenthal

Posted on 03/31/2009 10:07:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

WASHINGTON -- The long-simmering dispute over allowing Mexican trucks onto U.S. highways is escalating into a trade war that could cost Washington state agricultural interests millions of dollars in lost sales and present the Obama administration and the Democratic-controlled Congress with an early test of their trade policies.

Washington's pear, cherry, apricot and Christmas tree growers find themselves in the middle of a trade clash not of their own making and facing 20 percent tariffs on their exports to Mexico.

The biggest impact, however, could be on the state's potato growers and processors. Mexico buys $83 million worth of frozen potato products annually, the bulk of them from Washington state, where 10 plants employing 20,000 people produce frozen French fries, hash browns and Tater Tots.

On the other side, organized labor, led by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, and consumer groups continue to insist Mexican trucks and their drivers present a major road hazard to U.S. motorists. They also charge that Mexico illegally imposed the tariffs without living up to its obligations under the North American Free Trade Agreement.

As the most trade-dependant state in the nation, with one in three jobs tied to exports and imports, Washington state is closely watching the Mexican trucking dispute.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: agricultural; bho44; bhomexico; bhotrade
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To: 1rudeboy
Instead of hurling accusations, why doesn't Osama's Day Care Queen sit down at her itty bitty desk, on her itty bitty stool and write a check list to be performed at the border, give 'em a compliance pass for how many hours or days they're expected to be on our roads, and if an unsafe vehicle is found to have slipped by, have the State Patrol tow any trucks to a repair yard, rather than give them a traffic ticket.

We could require that they buy insurance at the border, either for 1 run or a year's worth, and let the insurance company be responsible for keeping track of the rigs and drivers.

As long as we have NAFTA, for better or worse, we need to treat our business partners with respect, or expect an expensive response. Having union goons dictate policy undermines the word and spirit of the agreement. Tell them to go back to Chicago, where they belong.

Frankly, I think we should be able to sue the government for damages when some government twit causes losses to a private business through sheer incompetence.

21 posted on 03/31/2009 10:54:57 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (America to Totus -> Go Unplug Yourself)
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To: autumnraine
It is unreasonable for Mexico to assume we should allow their drivers of deadly 18 wheelers on our highways . . .

Back when CBs were all the rage, we heard truckers lament over those who "went into Mexican Overdrive". Years later I learned that it was truckspeak for losing your brakes. I suspect Mexican trucking has only deteriorated since then.

22 posted on 03/31/2009 11:00:02 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: 4woodenboats
That's the thing: no truck (Canadian, Mexican, or Romulan) can get permission to operate in the United States unless it holds an insurance policy from a U.S. federally-approved insurance carrier.

I can see objecting to the program for various reasons, but people shouldn't just make stuff up.

23 posted on 03/31/2009 11:01:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Oatka

I heard that Mexican trucks deploy huge sails made of wire mesh to slow themselves down.


24 posted on 03/31/2009 11:03:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
We don't honor insurance policies from the country of origin?

I thought I'd read that goods were being unloaded off foreign rigs and being loaded onto teamster rigs as well. If it was all in the name of safety, the teamsters shouldn't object to the foreign shippers shopping the best price, either.

25 posted on 03/31/2009 11:16:09 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (America to Totus -> Go Unplug Yourself)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy; All

The 2008 deficit was -$64,376,300,000!

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html#2009


26 posted on 03/31/2009 11:17:40 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations)
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To: 4woodenboats
The key term is "federally-approved." I've never seen the list, myself.

The thing with trucks holding insurance policies by foreign carriers, though, is that the insurance company needs to be capable of being sued in a U.S. court.

It wouldn't make much sense for an accident victim to sue the foreign insurance carrier, and have it reply, "sorry you do not have jurisdiction."

27 posted on 03/31/2009 11:19:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SwinneySwitch

Wow! As the farmers lay off employees or go out of business, you be sure to tell them that!


28 posted on 03/31/2009 11:19:54 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Then stop buying Mexican stuff!


29 posted on 03/31/2009 11:21:26 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy

China in 2008: -$266,332.700,000!

Apparently we buy made in China


30 posted on 03/31/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations)
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To: SwinneySwitch

That’s it! No Chinese trucks on U.S. roads! To the barricades!


31 posted on 03/31/2009 11:34:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SwinneySwitch
Our trade deficit is shrinking. Our economy must be booming!
32 posted on 03/31/2009 11:35:24 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 1rudeboy

They’re sneaking in on the NAFTA superhighway!


33 posted on 03/31/2009 11:36:04 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

They brake with their feet! WHARRGARBL


34 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1010RD

I’m sorry, but you are incorrect. As an insurer of trucking companies, I’m telling you the qualifications and background checks are no where near as tough as US DOT rules and regulations. They don’t require a physical fitness test for CDL drivers like the US does. Read this link regarding the US Senate discussing the issue in 2007.
http://www.truckaccidentlawyerblog.com/2007/09/us_senate_rejects_dots_mexican.html

Your desire to avoid a trade war does not trump people’s lives being at stake.

Not to mention speaking English. There are very basic signs that most can understand, but then there is the weight restrictions on bridges, height limits. Is the law going to require they all speak and read English? Will EVERY DOT official be required to learn spanish to read their log books? Or will they be required to write in English in their log books?

On the face of YOUR argument, the desire for money outwieghs the safety of people on the road.


35 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:35 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So if we dont allow mexican trucks on our roads, they will tariff food stuffs that their own people eat. Their government must be very popular. No more potatoes!! that will mean only more masses of illegals coming our way, as they starve them north!!!
why not tell mexico we are building a wall, and then we wont give a rats behind if the mexican so called leaders will go thru on their threat to increase food prices in mexico!! they wont do it if we closed mexicos “safety valve” of dumping its problems on us.

mexico go eat your sand and cactus, if you want to raise your own food prices. I would rather the nice American crops stay here, picked by Americans, consumed by Americans.

Wonder when the politicans will start out sourcing their own jobs rather than that of American taxpayers???


36 posted on 03/31/2009 11:43:21 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: dhm914

Times are tight for everyone, I know. How many thousands of pounds of potatoes can I put you down for? How soon can you take delivery?


37 posted on 03/31/2009 11:49:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: autumnraine

An old blog entry, of dubious accuracy, written by a lawyer soliciting clients. Whatever works.


38 posted on 03/31/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy

It’s Not Obama’s fault!

Poll Finds Most Americans Approve of Obama’s Economic Policies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2218876/posts


39 posted on 03/31/2009 11:54:38 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Yes it is!

China's Snow (beer) jumps Bud Light to be world No 1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2219084/posts

40 posted on 03/31/2009 12:12:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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