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To: GodGunsGuts; Liberty1970; editor-surveyor; demshateGod; metmom; Fichori; AndrewC

So I take it you folks are in full agreement with GGG and his Islamic compatriot Adnan Oktar (a/k/a Harun Yahya) that:

— “the majority of radical Islamist terrorists despise creation, and are materialist to the core”;

— radical Islamic terrorists are actually “hardcore Commie-Materialists who worship at the alter of evolutionary materialism”;

— “the more Muslims who become creationists (even if it’s of the Muslim variety) the more that helps the US and its allies in the War on Terror”; and

— that 9/11 was actually perpetrated by Darwinist, materialist, atheists who were just disguised as radical Muslims.

(Just checking.)


66 posted on 03/31/2009 2:42:36 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: atlaw; GodGunsGuts; Liberty1970; metmom; demshateGod; Fichori; AndrewC; Gordon Greene

Comic relief has arrived!


68 posted on 03/31/2009 2:47:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: atlaw
“So I take it you folks are in full agreement with GGG and his Islamic compatriot Adnan Oktar (a/k/a Harun Yahya) that:” [excerpt]
Have you stopped beating your wife?
70 posted on 03/31/2009 2:48:23 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: atlaw

You can take anything you want from whatever you want. That doesn’t make you correct or deserving of a reply. Adolph Hitler certainly believed that the sun appeared in the East, so do I, but that does not make me a Nazi(Godwin’s law may be invoked if you like, you seem to be in that rut).


71 posted on 03/31/2009 2:50:56 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: atlaw

Let me set the record straight, Mr. Lawyer:

— “the majority of radical Islamist terrorists despise creation, and are materialist to the core”;

I agree.

— radical Islamic terrorists are actually “hardcore Commie-Materialists who worship at the alter of evolutionary materialism”;

Not all, but many...pehaps a majority.

— “the more Muslims who become creationists (even if it’s of the Muslim variety) the more that helps the US and its allies in the War on Terror”;

Since Muslim creationists denounce terrorism carried out in the name of Islam, this is a given.

— that 9/11 was actually perpetrated by Darwinist, materialist, atheists who were just disguised as radical Muslims.

I don’t think I have ever said that. I have documented that Bin Laden’s #2 man is a known KGB agent. I have also documented that many of the hijackers ate pork, drank alcohol, did not repay debts, and frequented nudie bars. All are a big no-no in Islam. These are not the hallmarks of religiously observant Muslims.


73 posted on 03/31/2009 2:54:31 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: atlaw

PS I have also documented that the majority of Hezbollah suicide bombers in Lebanon come from secular Communist and socialist parties. And lets not forget that the Tamil Tigers, the terrorist group that carries out more suicide bombings than any other terrorist group, are officially Marxist-Leninist. How do you explain that, Mr. Lawyer?


75 posted on 03/31/2009 3:00:09 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: atlaw
OK, I'll bite:

— “the majority of radical Islamist terrorists despise creation, and are materialist to the core”;

I haven't seen any polls of self-identified radical Islamist terrorists, so I'm agnostic on this point. GGG may know something I don't.

— radical Islamic terrorists are actually “hardcore Commie-Materialists who worship at the alter of evolutionary materialism”;

See above. Given the historical fact of Soviet sponsorship of anti-western Islamists I wouldn't be surprised that there is a Marxist influence in their beliefs, but at the same time the Koran is a creationist book in itself. They just have a really wicked idea of God and what He wants people to do to other people.

— “the more Muslims who become creationists (even if it’s of the Muslim variety) the more that helps the US and its allies in the War on Terror”; and

I think this would only help marginally. It would all depend on what sort of creationist they become (as per the above). I do lean in favor of this statement because while creationists can believe either a good God or a wicked one, atheism historically and logically drives people in the direction of practicing evil (either through hedonism or fascist/communist drives for control and domination).

— that 9/11 was actually perpetrated by Darwinist, materialist, atheists who were just disguised as radical Muslims.

Insofar as it was perpetrated by followers of the Wahhabi sect, I'm dubious. The Wahhabi doctrine is presumably uninfluenced by modern Darwinism, though elements of it may creep into their thought.

104 posted on 03/31/2009 6:34:40 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: atlaw; GodGunsGuts; Liberty1970; editor-surveyor; demshateGod; Fichori; AndrewC; CottShop; ...

The Book of Genesis contained in the Jewish Torah is believed to have been written about 1400 BC.

Jesus referred to it regularly while he was here on earth about 1400 years later, at about 33 AD.

Islam, which borrowed heavily from both the OT and NT, didn’t come into existence until after 600 AD.

Now to conflate Christianity and creationists with islam and use it to accuse creationists of being islamic terrorists because the muslims took the same creation account as the Jews, is intellectual dishonesty of the highest degree.

You aren’t really a lawyer, are you? Can you represent my opponent if I ever have to go to court for something?


132 posted on 04/01/2009 5:12:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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