Looks like atlaw and allmendream are attempting to hijack and derail your thread here. As pretty much always, this is their intent of course.
That’s why I am trying to get them to agree to participate in the proposed debate thread (from start to finish) so that we can get this topic moved to the appropriate place...at which point the lame arguments of both of them (i.e. trying to distance revolutionary materialism from Islamist terrorism) will be completely eviscerated.