The Obama We Knew But Denied

The American Thinker ^ | 3/30/2009 | The Obama We Knew But Denied

[Realism]

“Well, you could have given your check back *shrug*”

No way, if they're hell bent on throwing money, Im in. I just don't think it's fiscally responsible.

[expat_panama]

Stimulus checks we got last year were not a tax decrease.  They were a loan.

No, they were welfare payments from rich tax payers like myself.

Bush's tax cuts were called "tax-cuts for the rich" because they cut taxes and only the rich pay taxes.  Obama took money from tax payers like myself and 'spread the wealth around'; he called them 'tax-cuts' but that was just another Obamalie.

Your welcome.

[Realism]

“No, they were welfare payments from rich tax payers like myself.”

If you say so. You should be all for dropping the income tax code for a consumption tax, right?

[Reeses]

I respect Palin but I truly believe that she has peaked and we had better look somewhere else in 2012.

As much as I like Palin she provokes a vicious envious response from many women, similar to her competing in a beauty pageant. Women regress to their high school years. A successful woman candidate for President cannot possess that trait.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"Barack Obama is precisely the man whose political mentor, Saul Alinsky, advised the use of any and all means necessary to take power in America, and to clothe his deceit in "moral garments." Barack Obama is precisely the man whose most influential and moneyed backer was George Soros, the Fabian socialist whose financial schemes have garnered great wealth for him while leaving whole economies in shambles, the way ours is now."

Which is what we tried to warn everyone about during the campaign. But liberals and moderates, dumbed-down by the NEA and mass public education, wanted to believe in the One as healer and messiah for their utopia. Now everyone will pay the price for this stupidity.

[wtc911]

As much as I like Palin she provokes a vicious envious response from many women, similar to her competing in a beauty pageant. Women regress to their high school years. A successful woman candidate for President cannot possess that trait.

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Well stated, thanks.

[SunkenCiv]

Barack Hussein Obama: Profile of a Doctrinaire Ideologue
Intellectual Conservative | March 28th, 2009 | Jack Kerwick
Posted on 03/30/2009 9:38:36 AM PDT by IrishMike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2218153/posts

[expat_panama]

all for dropping the income tax code for a consumption tax, right?

Can we meet each other half way by agreeing to just the part about "dropping the income tax"?

[Realism]

No. The country cannot survive on donations (and it wouldn't be deductible). Pay per your income (9% or 10% net, rough guess) or per your lifestyle (20% to 30%). Pick one.

[expat_panama]

"dropping the income tax"?

"No. The country cannot survive on donations..."

Ah, it's either income tax or donations.  Somehow I'd have thought spending cuts and other kinds of taxes would've been on the table. 

fwiw, two more things: one is that with no income tax, everything will be deductible, and the other is that every year millions of dollars are donated to the federal government.

[Realism]

“Somehow I’d have thought spending cuts and other kinds of taxes would’ve been on the table.”

Oh “other taxes” the ones other people pay. I see where your coming from.

“every year millions of dollars are donated to the federal government.”

Those are campaign donations, they have nothing to do with
the national budget. Besides try cutting a budget of hundreds of billions to hundreds of millions. It costs more than that to run a city.

I guess dreaming never hurt anybody.

[expat_panama]

"...other taxes” the ones other people pay..."

Would that were true in my case, and my bet is that you're also paying gasoline tax, federal excise taxes, import tariffs, along with fees on stuff like roads, airports, etc.

millions of dollars are donated to the federal government.”    

Those are campaign donations

From here:

Gifts to the United States Government

How do I make a contribution to the U.S. government?

Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called "Gifts to the United States." This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782

Any tax-related questions regarding these contributions should be directed to the Internal Revenue Service at (800) 829-1040.

 

from www.fms.treas.gov/annualreport/cs2008/rta.pdf

[UCANSEE2]

Rather say THANKS to you than to OBAMA anyway!