I am sorry you are so defensive about this topic, it is not my desire to convert anyone to anything. I personally think every person will make up their own mind. This debate has been ongoing for a decade on the internet and shows no signs of waning. If you look back in the archives of this site, you will see it has been beat to death by every faction that you mentioned. Have a good day.
I am “reality based” on this topic; not defensive.
When you make claims that are unsubstantiated in an area where I possess knowledge (Biology being my area of expertise); I will correct you.
I am sorry you are defensive about being corrected.