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Tea Party vs. Real Tea Party, Rhetoric vs. Real Action
Right Side News ^ | March 26, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 03/26/2009 4:46:36 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

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To: PlainOleAmerican
All that could be done that is the equivalent of the Boston Tea Party is for the people paying 97% of the taxes to stop earning. The government can't take out of a nonexistent paycheck.
41 posted on 03/26/2009 7:38:03 PM PDT by Excellence (What Madoff is to finance Gore is to global warming.)
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To: Excellence

We don’t have to stop earning... we just have to stop paying.

If one does it, it’s tax evasion. If millions do it, it’s a tax revolt.

We can break them or wait for them to break us... Take your pick!


42 posted on 03/26/2009 7:54:52 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: azcap

Thanks for having the courage to say what has to be said over and over again, until the people grow the spine to take their nation back...

An all out tax revolt IS the peaceful solution. It’s all down hill after that!


43 posted on 03/26/2009 7:56:43 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Despite the tyranny of the Crown, Americans at the time of the original Tea Party were far better informed and enjoyed a far less government oppression. If you didn’t want to pay your taxes, you didn’t answer your door. The tax collector was hesitant to take matters too far because he knew he risked being tarred and feathered then carried out of town on a pole. Today’s tax collector also is my sole livelyhood. You don’t fill out a W-4 form, you don’t work. If you stormed a ship and dumped its cargo, the British troops didn’t want to risk dying in this savage land over something like tea and loyalist sheriffes had to live with those who were opposing the government. Today, if you even tried to gain access to the docks without authorization, you risk highly trained state and federal troops (as well as more dangerous less trained rentacops). CHANGE CAN HAPPEN, but I don’t know how.


44 posted on 03/26/2009 8:31:55 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Liberty can promote equality- manditory equality will kill liberty. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I agree with you. I only have a few corrections:

1)Hold these demonstrations at elected officials offices. check

2)Repeat same demonstration at elected officials homes at 4AM!!!! check

3)Drag elected officials out of their beds and apply tar very liberally with a generous dose of feathers.

3 4) Lets use use Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals against these officials and scare the living hell out of them. check

4 5) Ignore attack the media and ignore attack the liberal supporters with a 2nd generous application of tar and feathers.

Focus Tar and feather as well all attention directly at any and all elected officials who may get in our way.

45 posted on 03/26/2009 8:32:50 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Not to pick on you but I do think the tea parties will be mostly ignored by Congress and the MSM.

I love J.B. Williams and read him regularly. I think he might be Canadian since he is a regular contributor to canadafreepress.com

We think alike as I had just written the following unposted comment yesterday.

I would like to suggest that all the tea parties planned on the symbolic date of 4/15 while a VERY good idea in theory, will in all likelihood fall short of the desired effect to make Congress act within it's enumerated powers. Most people who might be inclined to participate in such a rally are likely working on a Wednesday afternoon, perhaps 10's or 100's of thousands, or more? Having a nationwide protest rally on a Saturday or Sunday would have a FAR greater turnout, and as a result a more resounding message from the ultimate sovereign "We The People" to those in D.C. to STOP ignoring the Constitution and destroying the Republic given us by our founders, and preserved by the blood of patriots throughout or Nations history.

My idea is to have rallys on Saturday April 11th, before tax day. Instead of symbolism with tea bags, how about doing something of REAL protest, a 1040 shredding party (we could recycle the paper for AlGore's new book). I don't mean just blank forms, I mean We The People refuse to pay taxes to a Government who is spending our country into bankruptcy with no Constitutionally enumerated authority. The Government would have a much harder time continuing it's unconstitutional spending spree without our money. (I know they could just print more money).

If a large enough number of citizens did this, hopefully some of prominence who would lead by example but not direction, there are not enough IRS agents in the world to come after all of us. Besides it would be many months before they could legally do anything regarding a failure to file and pay your taxes. By then I think the issues of an out of control Government would be front and center and some positive outcome would be realized for a restoration of our individual Sovereignty.

I believe a tax revolt may be the last chance of peaceful protest before it is too late to restore our country to it's founding principles. Waiting till the 2010 elections I fear will be too little too late to reverse the path to tyranny we are currently on.

46 posted on 03/26/2009 8:37:52 PM PDT by JGA2Z (give me Liberty or give me death)
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To: Boucheau

I agree with you also - well said. However, ONE or ONE HUNDRED people cannot fight an entire corrupt government. Our founders had leaders, so far we do not.

Until we actually MARCH by the millions and someone rises up like Washington and Adams and Jefferson to actually LEAD there is little we can do.

Someone needs to rise up and lead the army, sound the trumpets, and then we can assemble on the green.


47 posted on 03/26/2009 8:39:45 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Excellence

They did not have their tax intercepted and confiscated out of their paychecks before they even saw it.”

True... but it begs a question....

WHAT IF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS IN AN ACT OF CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE REFUSED TO GO ALONG WITH IT? WHAT IF THERE WAS A TAXPAYER STRIKE?

In effect what if we all did a “Rangel/Geitner” option, burned our 1040s? And what if we prepared to not get screwed by upping our deductions for withholding?

If there was a nation of taxpayers revolting via evasion/nonpayment, it would be the equivalent of an illegal strike or MLKs civil disobedience. You could end up paying a lot more down the road or end up in jail, but would it gum up the works, or just be business as usual for the powers-that-be?

I think THAT act would be equivalent to the actual 1773 Tea Party.


48 posted on 03/26/2009 8:52:33 PM PDT by WOSG (tagline is now unemployed due to Obama economy)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I’m right beside you.


49 posted on 03/26/2009 8:54:14 PM PDT by Boucheau ("...if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher." Abe)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

We need to revolt on paying taxes.


50 posted on 03/26/2009 8:56:02 PM PDT by surfer
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To: Excellence
All that could be done that is the equivalent of the Boston Tea Party is for the people paying 97% of the taxes to stop earning. The government can't take out of a nonexistent paycheck.

That ultimately is the final answer. A capitalist strike.

"ATLAS SHRUGGED" is required reading for this day and age. Read first 400 pages of it last week. A novel written in 1950s, and its got some of the current events/talking points of the looters down VERBATIM.

51 posted on 03/26/2009 8:58:20 PM PDT by WOSG (tagline is now unemployed due to Obama economy)
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To: conservativegramma

“Until we actually MARCH by the millions and someone rises up like Washington and Adams and Jefferson to actually LEAD there is little we can do.”

NOT TRUE! Respectfully.

We need to set the stage, the foundation, for a leader to RIDE OUR WAVE, not the other way around.

No, no, no, we need not concern ourselves with a leader first.

Let us create the momentum that will shield said leader.

Let us create the noise all over this country so said leader can funnel it into a laser beam of influence.

We must move now.

WE CANNOT WAIT FOR A LEADER.

ANY ONE WHO STEPS IN THE WAY OF THEIR HARD-LEFT TRAIN WILL BE MOWED DOWN.

The people MUST RISE, NOW!

We must start the process of reclaiming our birthright-freedom!

PLEASE, DON’T WAIT FOR A LEADER THAT’S NOT COMING.

NO ONE IS COMING BUT US—YOU AND I, AMERICANS!


52 posted on 03/26/2009 9:00:05 PM PDT by Boucheau ("...if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher." Abe)
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To: Boucheau

Okay I see your point. But we still need NUMBERS. A few hundred people still cannot take on squat teams, FBI, and the national guard. A few million yes — a few hundred no. I believe if these tea parties would be drawing hundreds of thousands D.C. would be getting nervous, unfortunately only 2 so far have even reached the 3-5,000 threshold.

I mean comeon - there were 65 million of us who did not vote for this monstrosity or his agenda. WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE?!?!?!

Sorry - just venting my frustration here.


53 posted on 03/27/2009 4:40:29 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

I agree with your corrections.......Amen


54 posted on 03/27/2009 4:43:57 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Boucheau

You have made the most important statement on this or any other thread.

Leaders do not appear from thin air. They emerge up through just such a movement. Unlike our enemy, we are not in search of a messiah to do for us what we cannot do for ourselves.

A leader will emerge, but only once the people rise up on their own.

BRAVO!


55 posted on 03/27/2009 7:22:20 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: conservativegramma

Where are those 65 million now?

Those 65 million represent the “taxpayers” in this country. Imagine if all 65 million built a bon fire of 1040 forms on the steps of congress. Where are the 65 million now? Where is Obama’s socialism then?


56 posted on 03/27/2009 7:24:49 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Exactly! That would be a REAL tea party and Congress would be scrambling.


57 posted on 03/27/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Excellence

Well, then, if you want to do that,

everyone set your W4 exemptions to 25.


58 posted on 03/27/2009 8:31:20 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

If those 4am demonstrations
included torches, pitchforks, tar, feathers, and rails,

that would be more effective than protest signs.


59 posted on 03/27/2009 8:32:33 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Just a couple of thoughts. The bulk of the taxes in this country are withheld or otherwise built-in. Sure, we could refuse to send in any income tax deficit owed, but I have to imagine that is a small sum compared to the total.

Also, the government doesn't really need our taxes if they are willing to spend money they don't have to begin with.

Remember, their apparent end game is to collapse the present system and put a new one in it's place. They don't need our money in order to do that.

60 posted on 03/28/2009 9:01:14 AM PDT by Datahead
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