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3 Strikes: Music Industry, ISPs May Cut Internet Access for File-Sharers (Ooooh, scary--sarc/)
fox news ^ | March 23, 2009 | Liza Porteus Viana

Posted on 03/24/2009 9:47:56 AM PDT by max americana

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Good luck on that. I download more than 500 mb per day and use everything from encryption, proxy servers et al and of course, the libs (digital rights and downloads groups) aren't happy (Digg) that Big Ears is screwing up their party.
1 posted on 03/24/2009 9:47:56 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

This makes no sense,

so somebody with a netflix download account has to PROVE they are innocent?


2 posted on 03/24/2009 9:50:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: max americana

It’s really sad what’s happened to music business. People dont’ buy music anymore. How is a musician supposed to make money? Why bother making music? So you can sell ringtones? It’s just sad. And it’s sad that people feel no responsibility towards paying the artists for their work. They just glom it off the net. Cheapskates.


3 posted on 03/24/2009 9:53:38 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: longtermmemmory

LOL. Looks like it. Verizon snd Comcast are known to throttle connections BTW.


4 posted on 03/24/2009 9:56:16 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Huck

I pay the artists I enjoy for their work happily and freely. I just don’t buy the 92% of music that’s utter garbage. And unfortunatly quite a few of the big record labels specalize heavily in that 92%. I will say I did quite a bit of music downloading in my teens but that I now own pretty much every album I’ve ever downloaded. Not to mention the fact that for 15 dollars a month my zune pass gives me almost all of the music I could want.

If artists whine about not making sales I’d tell them to take a hard look at what they put out and that we’re not obligated to buy their garbage just because some record label puts them on TV.


5 posted on 03/24/2009 9:58:20 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Huck
How is a musician supposed to make money?

Live shows maybe? If there was still any good bands out there they would be touring. Believe it or not people still buy CDs.

Why bother making music?

Why bother doing anything that you love to do?

And it’s sad that people feel no responsibility towards paying the artists for their work. They just glom it off the net. Cheapskates.

Did you ever take a cassette and record a song from the radio? Same difference when it comes to public transportation of media.
6 posted on 03/24/2009 9:58:25 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Huck
It’s really sad what’s happened to music business. People dont’ buy music anymore. How is a musician supposed to make money? Why bother making music? So you can sell ringtones? It’s just sad. And it’s sad that people feel no responsibility towards paying the artists for their work. They just glom it off the net. Cheapskates.

Yes and no,

People throughout Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, and South America don't play by the rules (They never did)

But America, Canada, and western Europe MUST?

Either it's a fair playing field or not.

And this isn't just music. It entails all aspects of the entertainment business.

7 posted on 03/24/2009 10:00:20 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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So they won’t terminate your access if you “share” child porn, but don’t even think about sharing music.

Makes total sense. /sarc


8 posted on 03/24/2009 10:03:54 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Huck

I would feel worse about it if more than 2 out of 12 songs per CD were any good.


9 posted on 03/24/2009 10:05:28 AM PDT by exist
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How do they determine who is “sharing files”? Is it based on protocols? Applications? If you use BitTorrent, do they know whether you download/share “Presentation.ppt” or StarWarsIV.avi”? Many businesses use Torrent.


10 posted on 03/24/2009 10:05:48 AM PDT by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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Live shows maybe? If there was still any good bands out there they would be touring. Believe it or not people still buy CDs.

Well, all the music thieves are definitely driving up ticket prices, that's for sure. But I'm not talking about live shows. I'm talking about sound recordings. Why bother making them if people are going to steal them?

Why bother doing anything that you love to do?

It depends what it is, and what it costs. I can go fishing for next to nothing. Making sound recordings takes money. Why bother?

Did you ever take a cassette and record a song from the radio? Same difference when it comes to public transportation of media.

No, it's not the same thing at all. How do songs get from a CD to the net? It's called "ripping" for a reason. Short for ripping-off, as in stealing.

11 posted on 03/24/2009 10:08:49 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: exist

Lame rationalization. You don’t have to buy entire cds. You can purchase single songs. But you choose to steal them. Why?


12 posted on 03/24/2009 10:09:40 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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Lame rationalization. You don’t have to buy entire cds. You can purchase single songs. But you choose to steal them. Why?

Because I believe it's an unjust law. Like slavery. So it's a form of civil protest. Like throwing tea in the harbor.

13 posted on 03/24/2009 10:11:25 AM PDT by exist
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I peRsonally use BT for my DL’S but I am guessing they are now going to concentrate on BT’s instead of straight DL’S. I DL from Mininova for my ‘stuff’ and most of the uploaders cover up their uploads with WINRAR to compress the file. BUT it’s redundant because the file is in pieces, which is the selling point of BT.


14 posted on 03/24/2009 10:11:47 AM PDT by max americana
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To: utherdoul
CD sales are in free fall. The reason is because people rip the songs and then they get downloaded for free. If people didn't like the music, they wouldn't be downloading it. If you are willing to download it, you should be willing to pay for it, or else be willing to live with being a cheap rip off artist picking someone else's pockets.

Imagine a rural vegetable stand. The kind where they leave a basket out for payment, and trust the good will of people to pay for what they take. Downloaders are basically driving up to the vegetable stand, loading up on tomatoes, and stiffing the farmer. It's not right.

15 posted on 03/24/2009 10:12:31 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: exist

What is an unjust law? Copyright? It’s in the Constitution.


16 posted on 03/24/2009 10:13:39 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: exist

You are a symptom of what is wrong with America. No integrity. No respect for others. Just a selfish utilitarianism. Rationalization of adolescent appetite. Pathetic, really. And a symptom of our fading national character.


17 posted on 03/24/2009 10:15:16 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: max americana

This whole idea is a mess. Suppose your Internet connection is paid for by your employer because you need access from home. Your access gets terminated by your ISP for something teen does. Now what?

ISPs have no business enforcing this unless criminal charges are involved.


18 posted on 03/24/2009 10:17:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Huck

>> How do songs get from a CD to the net? It’s called “ripping” for a reason. Short for ripping-off, as in stealing.

Trasferring purchased CD music or DVD movies to your computer is entirely legal — “fair use” doctrine of copyright law. Distribution is illegal. Downloading that which you did not pay for is illegal. But “ripping” is entirely legal and legitimate.

I have personally “ripped” every CD and DVD I own onto my PC for use with my AppleTV (a badass little device, by the way). Some were easy. Some required decryption. But, so long as I don’t distribute, I’ve broken no copyright law.

SnakeDoc


19 posted on 03/24/2009 10:17:51 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (God Bless Our Troops -- Especially Our Snipers)
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To: Huck
You are a symptom of what is wrong with America. No integrity. No respect for others. Just a selfish utilitarianism. Rationalization of adolescent appetite. Pathetic, really. And a symptom of our fading national character.

So were the people who threw tea into the Boston harbor all those things too? Or the people who fought against slavery? It's an unjust law, and I'm protesting it. Nonviolently, mind you. What's wrong with that?

20 posted on 03/24/2009 10:18:41 AM PDT by exist
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