Your recollection matches mine. It was just another aspect of this case that was broken by reporter Sara Carter.
I also remember at least one freeper alleging that Johnny Sutton had evidence to back up the allegation that they were out to shoot a Mexican, something I don't remember ever seeing in a newspaper account. ("But the prosecuter has evidence that the two were heard saying they were going to hurt a mexican...")
HERE are some of the articles about the DHS atrocities. I wonder if any of those DHS officials were ever punished/prosecuted for lying to our Congressmen. (Yeah... like that would ever happen. What a shame)
Even after DHS officals fessed up to lying, that same freeper was suggesting that the allegation could still be true (" I note that DHS has not yet said the claims were false, just that they cannot turn over investigation paperwork proving the claims were true.")
And so it goes... on and on....
Charles, I don't know the right word for it. "Lackeys" seemed to fit.
As you well know from that time, there were news stories that reported things, and people like me who were reading those stories and commenting on what the stories said.
Sometimes I even misread the stories, or didn’t remember them correctly. I don’t think you ever accused me of deliberately lying in order to support Sutton.
As I said before, FR works well as a filter, and as a corrective tool. We read stories, we comment on them, people who read other stories or have more information come and correct things that are wrong.
It’s how we learn.
I will note now that, so far as I can remember, nobody was ever prosecuted for lying under oath to congress. I don’t know if that means it just wasn’t a concern, or if in the end they couldn’t prove the charge.
As I have explained many times, we are all quite removed from the truth, and all we have is what we are told by others. You chose who you will believe, you try to get multiple sources to back things up, you throw things out when they are proven wrong, and you learn.
I can’t to this day say that, for a fact, those words were not spoken by the agents. I don’t believe they were, but I don’t know for a fact that there wasn’t evidence, all I know is that evidence was never publicly reported.
We do have the transcripts of the trial, and if I am remembering correctly, they did not indicate that the charge about the phrase was ever presented at trial.
And if not, my statement from 2007 stands — the suggestion that they spoke harsh words about mexicans would not have a bearing on the question of the jury verdict, because the jury was never presented with the charge.
It’s just so much easier for people to demonize those they disagree with. It’s tiresome, and does nothing to make others think you have a rational argument. So what if a bunch of Freepers think Sutton is the devil? He’s not in jail, and outside the circle of hatred seems to be treated pretty much like real people in a civilized society treat people.
I’ve always had a hard time with the raw hatred and slanderous charges made against people that the accuser has never met, never spoken to, and has no direct evidence of.
(Wow, that wasn’t much of a sentence).