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Offshore Oil Drilling Ban Will Be Restored By Any Means Necessary, Even Civil War - Dem Congressman
cnsnews.com ^ | March 23, 2009 | Josiah Ryan

Posted on 03/23/2009 12:03:27 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: driftless2

Gee, you have a point.

The president is term limited — and look what just happened? America — the IDEA — is circling the drain.

You have any suggestions??


201 posted on 03/24/2009 10:46:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
"suggestions"

Like it or not, we elect our representatives. If we don't like who's in right now, we should get our ducks in a row and vote him or her out. Term limits won't solve anything.

202 posted on 03/24/2009 11:05:39 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: kellynla

The Democrats allowed the ban to expire only for campaign purposes when Gasoline was $4 per gallon. They decided to decieve Americans into believing that they would get serious about energy independence. It worked, Americans believed it. Now that they have an unquestionable majority they want to return things to normal, meaning no drilling now, not here, not ever and Americans can pay $10 per gallon before they would give a s**t.


203 posted on 03/24/2009 11:55:28 AM PDT by scannell
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To: driftless2

I trust you will be leading that effort in YOU congressional district.

“People get the government they deserve” Joseph D’Maistre

We HAD a shot at cleaning these places out this last election and, to borrow a phrase from the klintoon White House, WE BLEW IT!!!

While I, like many of you, am saddened that McCain and Palin couldn’t keep the Marxist Obamessiah out of the White House, let’s try to keep things in some kind of rational perspective: ACORN elected a president and vice-president, NOT a monarch.

For years, I’ve been amazed at this idiotic quadrennial fascination with the beauty contest known as the (cue the trumpet fanfare) “PRESIDENTIAL RACE.” Our inattention and/or apparent desire for a king or a strong man dictatorship has allowed our system to morph to the present quasi-monarchy from its original foundations as a representative REPUBLIC.

People, the most important thing we can remember about all of this is that the Founders constructed the system to put – AND KEEP — the KEYS TO THE FEDERAL CASH REGISTER ARE IN CONGRESS and current Gang of 535 could bring this out-of-control government spending and the steady usurpation of our freedoms to a screeching halt tomorrow at noon — IF they wanted to. Attila the Hun could occupy the White House and without the dough to hire the bureaucrats, buy the desks and computers, etc., etc. ad nauseum, Mr. Hun would be hamstrung. (See Article 1, Section 7 of the now largely moribund Constitution for details.)

But they DON’T — for a number of reasons: (And I cite the tax situation as but one example of the problem. Don’t get me started on the ENERGY thing!)

1. They understand the need to vacuum the excess FRAUDS (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Denominators) — there are no “dollars” circulating now! — out of circulation BEFORE the bulk of the dumb masses (say it really fast for maximum effect) catch on to the resultant inflation. If you question that statement, ask yourself why else would a criminal enterprise (the federal government) having the power to “create” “money” with the stroke of a pen NEED YOURS every April 15th?

2. The current Gang of 535 understands the need for the massive tax code (so-called because it is written in code by gnomes chained to posts in the cellars of K Street lobbying firms and understood only by their keepers) to reward their friends, punish their enemies and keep the rest of us under their thumbs with threats of draconian punishments should we run afoul of it. It is impossible to NOT run afoul of it.

3. While the dumb masses rant about the abusive practices of this top criminal enterprise’s subsidiary criminal enterprise (the IRS), members of the Gang can pose and posture for the cameras from time to time and declare that “something MUST be done to reign in the abuses of the IRS,” NOTHING WILL BE DONE until we clean house on Capitol Hill and get back to the HONEST, CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY called for at Art.1, Sect. 10. They’ve been playing a rigged game of 3 card-Monte with us for so long – and getting away with it – that, as Herman Cain’s book title declares – “They Think You’re STUPID.” And, hell, for MOST of the dumb masses, they’re right.

And THAT process starts in YOUR STATE and CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT by finding and supporting decent candidates — at ALL levels — who will go to YOUR state capitol and Malfunction Junction and do that house cleaning. Not marching on Washington...not sending “money” to the RNC (LOL!)...not writing poison pen letters to these current jerks...but THROWING OUT THE CURRENT JERKS and doing it as many times as necessary to get it done.

A good news in the viability of this approach is that the controlled so-called national mainstream media have far less impact on these widely separated congressional races making it easier to get some good guys elected.

The bad news is that I can speak from personal experience about how the national PARTIES will survey all the contested congressional races and if they DO find a candidate they do not or think they cannot control running on their side, they’ll offer a “consultant” from headquarters to come in and ASSIST the campaign. In at least 4 cases with which I am familiar, the Republican National Committee TORPEDOED those campaigns so a good guy who might be more incined to harken to the Constitution before toeing the party line didn’t make it to D.C.

And for you who, like a sad number of the dumb masses, THINK YOUR GUY IS OK, go to THROWTHEMOUT at

http://www.throwthemout.com/articles.php

for your guy’s voting record on taxes, spending or your personal hot button issues. You might be in for an unpleasant surprise.

I often get the strong sense that the American people have some sick and sophomoric yearning for a new ROYAL FAMILY or BENEVOLENT KING to make their lives what they themselves feel incapable of making them without some nanny-state sovereign. Throughout history, with few exceptions conspicuous because of their rarity, those systems nearly always become malignant and freedom founders and eventually fails. With the exception of America – the IDEA, not the place – most men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves.

As opportunities afford themselves (and this is one), I simply attempt to remind my fellow citizens of that history and what lies ahead if they continue in their ignorance of that history.

I could go on for volumes but you get the idea.

One final thought: With the exception of the guys who pass muster at THROWTHEMOUT, RE-ELECT NOBODY!!!!!

Standing by for a record breaking flaming by the fanatics.


204 posted on 03/24/2009 12:29:31 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: crazyhorse46
Liberal logic: Destroying the means to produce our own energy will secure our energy future.

It makes about as much sense as a RAT threatening war if he doesn't get what he wants.....

.....I can just imagine the Sissy Panzie Division recruits fresh from bootie camp marching in formation with scarves flying and wrists held out limp.

205 posted on 03/24/2009 3:12:25 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Nowhere Man
I think a good part of the oil companies is they can provide us with the tar for the tar and feathers we need for the politicians. B-)

Good thought. I will start asking around to save some SOUR CRUDE. /wink

206 posted on 03/24/2009 4:05:51 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: kellynla

“Junior”?

I’m crushed. Consider me severely chastised and intimidated.


207 posted on 03/24/2009 4:31:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: thackney

The price of oil is low. The cost to extract oil miles down in the Gulf of Mexico is expensive and much higher than pulling it out of the mideast sand. Therefore those extracting oil out of the Gulf are at a competitive disadvantage than those pulling it out of the sand. So just allowing more drilling by itself is not a magic wand to making us independent of foreign oil unless the exploration and production cost differentials are dealt with. We are dependent on foreign oil not just because of environmentalists.


208 posted on 03/24/2009 4:34:16 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: kellynla
my point was it is cheaper to transport within America than from ME...

So? It is still less expensive to bring that cheap oil over here than drill deep in the Gulf. Just like it is cheaper to drag those cheap goods from China over here than manufacture our own. There is no ban on manufacturing here and yet almost all our goods come from China. Some believe if you just ease environmental restrictions that that alone will result in oil independence which ignores simple market forces which is what I was responding to. I have no problem with the idea of the feds subsidizing production of our own oil to become more oil interdependent for security reasons but thats another matter and an academic discussion anyway since we are going in the opposite direction right now.

209 posted on 03/24/2009 7:21:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
I am not claiming it would make us independent.

But if the total cost of producing oil in the new Gulf of Mexico fields is $40/bbl, the cost in Middle East fields is $20/bbl and the price is $50/bbl; opening up new GoM areas will get more bidders, exploration and production for us.

The Middle East isn't exactly open to producers like it is here. Agreeing to produce oil in an OPEC country runs other risks, such as being scaled back due to OPEC production limits, just as they are forcing upon them today.

As long as there is money to be made here, we will get companies interested in producing the oil. Just because someone else has a higher profit margin, doesn't prevent expansion elsewhere.

That is why deep water and oil sands had been growing for years, even though it was cheaper in other places.

210 posted on 03/25/2009 4:51:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

My comments were in response to post 10 which I disagree with. This was before you got sucked in to the discussion. Those who think simply opening up drilling by itself makes us oil independent are delusional and naive. thanks


211 posted on 03/25/2009 4:18:33 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: kellynla

Inslee is the purveyor of global warming pornography. What an idiot.


212 posted on 03/25/2009 11:04:12 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Bring it on.


213 posted on 03/25/2009 11:05:42 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: kellynla

To state as a congressman that he will get his ban even if it means war simply shows that he is in violation of his oath of office. He should be removed from office forthwith.


214 posted on 03/26/2009 4:21:15 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Yea, well a lotta “shouldas” should have happened here, just like alotta “shouldas” should have happened in Israel but they haven't...yet...

Let me know when they have finished “taking out the trash” in Israel and I'll let you know when we have here.

215 posted on 03/26/2009 4:59:20 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: DennisR

Yea, well America and the WORLD, as a matter of fact, is full of “idiots” or what I like to call “educated fools”...It’s just gonna be up to the ADULTS to “keep the children in the yard.” While the ADULTS “take out the trash!”


216 posted on 03/26/2009 5:03:54 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

—“We are off the Pacific coast, and there would be a civil war,” said Inslee. “There would be something like a secessionist movement if there was a serious attempt to [permanently] remove the moratorium.” —

Inslee is just “sellin’ wolf tickets”. In fact, I’m sure that most people in WA and OR would welcome oil exploration of the coasts of their states, at least if it meant cheaper energy.


217 posted on 03/26/2009 7:13:53 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: seatrout
what it would “mean” is JOBS, JOBS, JOBS & MORE JOBS!

shezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...we're living on the richest country on the planet and we're being run by a bunch of IDIOTS borrowing money from COMMUNISTS!

218 posted on 03/26/2009 7:44:26 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: AmericanGirlRising

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219 posted on 03/26/2009 7:16:42 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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