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To: deannadurbin; Godzilla; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Zakeet; Osage Orange; ...
Your approach is 'modern judaizing'. The physical liquid is not sinful nor is the process of preservation of the grape juice. In fact, Jesus addressed your legalistic approach with a simple lesson that 'it is not what goes into a man's mouth that defiles him, for it goes out in the drought; it is what comes up out of the heart which defiles a man.'

Legalism is Satan's method for focusing folks like you upon the things of this world with 'dos and don'ts', to distract from what is bubbling in and out of the heart, defiling the soul. Mormonism does a similar work, equating 'living righteously' with following a set of strcitures like not drinking coffee, or adhering to temple ordinances.

What goes in the mouth does not touch the soul, only the body. What is planned by the heart is most definitely spot-on effecting the person. Drunkeness is sinful behavior because of the lowering of soulish inhibitions which help to keep our focus straight not convoluted and weakened to the point of temptations ruling our soul. ('Be not drunk with wine wherein is excess'; NOah's sin is instructive, if one qapplies the lesson Jesus taught regarding 'into the mouth and out through the drought/up from the heart, defilement'.)

Convoluting the Bible to fit a legalistic framework is the exact problem Paul had to deal with in the Judaizers who followed his missionary journeys, seeking to convert Christians into practicing Jews by applying the convoluted dos and don'ts, including circumcision ... and Paul explained what and why circumcision FOR THE CHILDREN OF MOSES.

68 posted on 03/23/2009 7:02:41 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; deannadurbin

Amen, MGHinTN.

Your thoughtful response is a good reminder to each of us that legalism can be dangerous.


72 posted on 03/23/2009 10:03:52 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: MHGinTN

“Your approach is ‘modern judaizing’.”

Sorry, hogwash. My approach is to READ THE SCRIPTURES and LEARN FROM THEM.

Your approach is to close your mind because these verses are in contradiction to whatever your own denomination teaches.


75 posted on 03/23/2009 10:20:50 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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