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To: deannadurbin

I think you’d better rethink your theory of “the words aren’t there, but the teaching is.” Otherwise, you won’t be able to argue with me when I say things like “Peter was the first Vicar of Christ,” “the wine and bread become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ at Holy Communion,” “Baptism is the washing away of our sins, making us new,” “souls might need to go to Purgatory when they die,” “Jesus does not want us to be divided (many denominations),” etc. - even though everything I’ve mentioned can be found in Holy Scripture! See Matthew 16:17-19; John 6; 1 Corinthians 10:16; 1 Corinthians 11:27-29; 1 Peter 3:21; 1 Corinthians 3:13-15; John 17.

If you believe that Holy Scripture is the Inspired Word of God, that it is inerrant, and that it is non-self-contradicting, how do you rationalize the following verses from Holy Scripture? “He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man’s heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 If you say that the word for wine here means grape juice, then all the verses you just quoted give us admonitions not to get drunk on grape juice. I don’t think that can happen. Either it’s fermented or not - you can’t have it both ways. The wine that Jesus used at the Last Supper is the same type of wine that is mentioned in this Psalm: given to us by God as a wonderful gift to be enjoyed but not over-indulged in. Reference: gluttony (one of the seven deadly sins).


113 posted on 03/23/2009 1:23:58 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Blessed Martyrs of Compiegne, Pray for Us!)
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To: nanetteclaret

The Christian in the age of grace is supposed to be filled with the Holy Spirit, NOT alcoholic beverages. The New Testament commands you to avoid people who drink. It says drunks will not inherit the Kingdom of God. You come on here and defend the practice. It’s obvious who is in defiance of the Lord Jesus Christ on this subject and it is not me. :)

You learn about scripture by comparing scripture with other scripture on a topic. For instance if you are studying the antichrist you study ALL the passages having to do with the antichrist or the man of sin and you compare scripture with scripture to learn what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach you.

Scripture is of no private interpretation. You compare scripture with scripture and it is SELF-INTERPRETING. Then you “rightly divide the word of truth.” That means you don’t take passages for Jews under the law and apply them to Christians in the age of grace. Then you are not rightly dividing the word of truth, you are privately interpreting to suit your own agenda. When Jesus Christ walked the earth He was under the Old Testament law. He came to fulfill that. If Jesus as a rabbi had imbibed alcholic beverages He would have sinned.

Jesus Christ’s blood was PURE. He would not have mixed it with a fermented product. Any Christian who claims that He did is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit and as the Scripture says that is the one unforgiveable sin.

So tread carefully all ye who wish to defend drinking wine when you are supposed to be filled with the Holy Spirit instead.


118 posted on 03/23/2009 1:37:22 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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