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To: Badger1
Your comment just points out the problem with the Republican Party as currently constituted.

Absolutely, what you want is a winning party made up of Libertarians and RINO's, the fact that the party has to sell its soul matters little to you.

We have a long line of losers that agree with you. GW was a narrow exception, less than 50% of the vote, but he was certainly no conservative.

I am not saying one has to be Christian to be conservative, but John Adams certainly thought it wa important.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798 John Adams


511 posted on 03/22/2009 5:38:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: itsahoot
>>but John Adams certainly thought it wa important.
 
So did George Washington:
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."
--from President George Washington's farewell address, 1796
 
 

513 posted on 03/22/2009 5:47:42 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: itsahoot

I want a party made up of fiscal conservatives and people who believe in limited government. Recent history shows that when those principles are abandoned in favor of more “social conservatism” Republicans lose. Or are you not aware that Democrats control both houses of congress and the presidency?

Social conservatives by themselves do not bring enough votes to the table to win elections. So if you want to win elections, you need to find a way to reformulate your social agenda in terms of the principle that win elections.

I have offered a few suggestions on how to do that, but people seem more interested in losing “pure” than winning and getting at least some of the things they want.


592 posted on 03/23/2009 11:41:49 AM PDT by Badger1
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