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The Hebrews had all of the Catholic, Old Testament works in the Temple at the time of Jesus, including those books that you do not like.

You say that everyone knew which books belonged and which didn't, in the early Church? The early Church HAD NO BIBLE!

In fact, God is never known in the Bible to command the Bible be written, and there is no Scripture, anywhere in the New Testament, saying that a Bible was to be written, and there is no Scripture, anywhere, saying which books were and were not be a part of the Bible that the Catholic Church first created, under the Divine inspiration of God.

Also, Geography is not the point.

Some of you seem to think that if Catholic monks preserved ancient texts, in Ireland, or if the Catholic Councils in 397 AD obtained Scripture from Africa or met somewhere other than Rome, that this was not under the authority of the Roman Catholic Church.

You hate the Catholic Church so much that you have no use for reason, on this subject.

I have never once claimed that the Catholic Church has always been perfect in its actions, or in its Stewardship of the Faith -— Neither were the Jews in the Old Testament.

However, without the Jewish Faith, and the Catholic Faith, there could be no Christian Faith.

You hate the Catholic Church so much that you have no use for reason, on this subject.

I don't "hate" the Catholic church, Kansas58. I'm just not inclined to apologize for it when in the wrong, and it certainly has been, grossly, at times, and I'm not inclined to give it praise where none is due.

It's a huge, manmade organization, that occasionally loses sight of it's Godly mission, due in large part to excessive concerns over political power and money. I'll be the first to admit that it's done far more good than harm to and for Christians, though. European "Christendom" would not have existed without it.

The earliest known, written record of my surname comes from a Knight of the Temple, listed in the Inquisition of 1185. As a result, I have some knowledge of the history of the Catholic church, particularly in England, both good and bad. Perhaps not quite so intensively as a Catholic, but with the objectivity of an outsider. I also have some knowledge of the origins and history of the English church, both good and bad. The majority of my people, my paternal ancestry, played some role, mostly small but not all, in that episode.

So, again, I do not "hate" the Catholic church. In that you are mistaken.