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To: GodGunsGuts

Stupid conclusion. Belief in God does not preclude any evolution. After all, with God all things are ossible. Also, how then would a scientist define how evolution could evolve from Nothing????

It is not totally incompatible to believe in a God and to also have some belief in evolution/creation. The Catholic viewpoint is that evolution can be a legitimate explanation of the development of mammals, yet to be a Christian, one must understand and believe in the ultimate concept that God had to create something which evolved, that nothing comes from nothing. Also, at some time God infused a spirit/soul into humanity, and eventually began to reveal Himself to those humans.


16 posted on 03/20/2009 8:11:50 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop

Right. St. Thomas Aquinas said that you should not argue faith against fact if it made faith look absurd.


24 posted on 03/20/2009 8:16:18 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (0bama Lied and the Market Died)
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To: Gumdrop
Also, how then would a scientist define how evolution could evolve from Nothing????

How is this axiomatic, if it isn't so?

26 posted on 03/20/2009 8:19:29 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Gumdrop

Then why does Genesis specifically say that God formed man from the dust of the earth instead of God formed man from the animals He created?


51 posted on 03/20/2009 8:39:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gumdrop

you must reconcile Genesis with Darwin

explain the days of creation, their order, with Darwin

oe else call the Bible a lie


63 posted on 03/20/2009 9:02:39 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Gumdrop

To hold that position you have to reject what ‘your book’ the Bible, says about creation. The creation account is given in the text. You are inventing things into it that are not there when you adopt the hybrid ‘creation and evolution are both true’ viewpoint.


71 posted on 03/20/2009 9:09:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Gumdrop
Correct!

Look, the order of creation is nearly identical, plants, fish, birds, mammals.

Also, what does a “day” mean? The Bible also discusses the “end of days” which means: THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A BEGINNING OF DAYS!

So a Biblical “day” means what, exactly?

Also, why is it considered “immoral” to think man might be in the same evolutionary chain as “monkeys” but -—

Perfectly OK to believe that God made man from “HUMAS” or DIRT which is nothing more than the decayed remains of other plants and animals. (INCLUDING MONKEYS!)

Try to give an account, to uneducated, illiterate people, 4,000 years ago, about how life began on Earth.

They know nothing of DNA.

They know nothing of cell structure.

To say that man was made from dirt, the smallest particle that they understood at that time -— is nothing short of pure, God inspired GENIUS, as it is the only thing they understood, that was remotely like what happened.

Therefore, Genesis is an honest account of creation, made to people who could not possibly comprehend the full story.

End of story.

If you do not believe it is possible that life began millions of years ago, than it is YOU who lacks faith.

“Put not the Lord, your God, to the Test” Jesus said to Satan.

When you try to force Christians to accept impossible ideas, you only weaken faith, at least, when those ideas, themselves, have no bearing at all on salvation.

God is laughing at us, for even having these arguments.

They can be interesting, yes, but far too often we try to make litmus tests out of the evolution vs creation debate.

Frankly, the extremes on both sides are childish.

78 posted on 03/20/2009 9:23:15 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Gumdrop; Kansas58
It is not totally incompatible to believe in a God and to also have some belief in evolution/creation.

No one has denied that variation within species has occurred. Even groups like AiG recognize that change has occurred as kinds, which had a complete, 100% useful, non-mutated DNA, got separated and certain characteristics got lost, thus giving the appearance of different species.

But scientists are finding more and more of these allegedly different species are capable of interbreeding, just choose not to.

The one problem is, evos look at the fossil record which shows variation within species and presume that just because that happens, evolution must therefore be the next *logical* step. Not necessarily.

The fossil record shows interrelationships, no doubt. It does NOT conclusively demonstrate species to species evolution.

160 posted on 03/21/2009 6:05:05 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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