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To: Scythian

There’s a disturbing trend going on, with this the third or fourth such accident I’ve seen in recent months. What’s going on with shiphandling and basic seamanship in the USN these days???


97 posted on 03/20/2009 8:26:34 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Shiphandling and basic seamanship have little to do with a collision involving a submerged vessel.

The primary fault for this, so it appears from the articles I have read, will lie with the Hartford. A ship on the surface has little or no ability to avoid a submerged vessel.

For those that are recalling the order of precedence and thinking - wait - don’t subs get precedence, shouldn’t the assumption be the OTHER way? No, submarines only have precedence when they are operating on the surface. Once submerged they lose precedence and assume the burden of avoidance in almost every instance.


105 posted on 03/20/2009 8:39:14 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“There’s a disturbing trend going on, with this the third or fourth such accident I’ve seen in recent months. What’s going on with shiphandling and basic seamanship in the USN these days”

The USS Hartford ran aground in 2003, http://navysite.de/ssn/ssn768.htm ,with significant damage so this is it’s second problem.


156 posted on 03/20/2009 7:24:34 PM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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