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To: roamer_1
You lying sack of crap. He and Bush tried six ways to Sunday to ram "normalization" down our throats, and when the PEOPLE rose up to defeat him, he threw a hissy fit and finally grumbled: “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”

A fence IS the least effective.

Do you seriously believe that Mexicans have never heard of a shovel? ($100,000 stretch of fence defeated by a $10 shovel.)

Do you seriously believe that Mexicans have never heard of a ramp or a ladder?


"20 people had crossed into the U.S. and put up welded metal ramps over the top of the border fence.” Upon the BP’s arrival they all took off back into Mexico but the ramp was left behind


"You can climb over a fence with a ramp? I never knew that!"

Has it ever occured to you that the most efficient way to stop the flood of illegals coming for work is to crack down on illegal EMPLOYERS so that, even if they dig under the fence or climb over the fence, there will be NO WORK once the illegal alien gets here?

Do you realize that, after you McCain-haters helped elect the Marxist Obama, illegal alien raids have been STOPPED?

Now, after you have helped get Marxist Obama in the White House, you will end up with NO fence, No raids and NO employer penalties.

There is NO excuse for you people helping get Barack Obama elected President of the United States. NO excuse whatsoever.


59 posted on 03/20/2009 11:18:37 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius; roamer_1
A fence IS the least effective.

As opposed to what????

1. Doing nothing?
2. A "Virtual" electronic fence?
3. Granting Amnesty?


You, my friend, are full of it!
60 posted on 03/20/2009 12:16:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Polybius; rabscuttle385; AuntB
A fence IS the least effective.

Globalist pap.

Do you seriously believe that Mexicans have never heard of a shovel? ($100,000 stretch of fence defeated by a $10 shovel.)

You had better take another look at the specifications for Duncan Hunter's fence, which was what we were to get, until the RINO Republicans gutted it's legislation.

Do you seriously believe that Mexicans have never heard of a ramp or a ladder?

Again, the specifications of Duncan Hunter's fence make most of your examples pretty impossible to do, and certainly impossible to do on a large scale... A properly defended border is the first point of defense, and the MOST effective, both in regard to alien enforcement, and the war on drugs.

Has it ever occured to you that the most efficient way to stop the flood of illegals coming for work is to crack down on illegal EMPLOYERS [...]

Sure, ya' dumb sod. If it weren't for us hollering, Bush wouldn't have "been cracking" down at all.

Do you realize that, after you McCain-haters helped elect the Marxist Obama, illegal alien raids have been STOPPED?

You mean like the Tyson plant, where some 500 illegal aliens were netted and 12 were deported?

Or the place up here in Oregon where 1200 were caught and 50 deported?

Please. The Republicans were merely giving the issue lip service, and that, only to shut us up. Their actions as a body stand in direct evidence against them. Quietly gutting the very legislation they hail as their defense of this nation does not endear them to us, nor does it tend to cause us to lend them trust.

Now, after you have helped get Marxist Obama in the White House, you will end up with NO fence, No raids and NO employer penalties.

If you were not so blinded by the hypocrisy it takes to be a Republican in this day and age, you would realize that your statement is a distinction without a difference.

There is NO excuse for you people helping get Barack Obama elected President of the United States. NO excuse whatsoever.

There is no excuse for Globalism/Socialism in the Republican Party. No excuse whatsoever. *Nothing* you can say can possibly defend it. I did not help Obama get elected. I stood for nothing other than Reagan Conservative principles, just as I always do, and stood against the Globalist/Socialists wherever they were.

By supporting a Socialist/Globalist agenda within the Republican Party, and allowing it to stand, you forced me and my kind to stand against you, as much as we stood against the Democrats. You made your own bed. Now lie in it.

73 posted on 03/21/2009 1:19:48 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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