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To: exit82
"The stimulus bill is now a federal law, and so are all of its contents. That’s not a condition or a correction. It is law. The contracts are protected by the AIG bailout paperwork with the Treasury from Sept. 2008, State of Connecticut State Law, The Stimulus Bill,US Contract law and the US Constitution. The only people as wrong as you is the Congress, one house of which just passed an unconstitutional bill of attainder against private citizens."

There's no bill of attainder, because the principles are not mentioned by name. The LAW, since you're grasping at LAW straws is that the bonus money paid for failure, because of the efforts of the WH through Dodd, will end up being returned to the treasury in a LAWFUL manner.

173 posted on 03/19/2009 1:57:39 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
LAW, since you're grasping at LAW straws is that the bonus money paid for failure

The bonus money did NOT pay for failure. My gawd, you are stupid collapsed in on itself! The bonus money paid people to PREVENT further failure...and those people were NOT the people that got AIG into trouble in the first place!

178 posted on 03/19/2009 2:01:19 PM PDT by tsmith130 (If I had wanted him to succeed, I would have voted for him. I didn't...so I don't.)
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To: spunkets

Sorry, spunkboy, wrong again.

Any bill of attainder is unconstitutional and illegal, and the requirement to name a person or persons is a fig newton of your imagination. Once Congress gets a list of names, the group or class is named.

The bonus money structure was in place when we got 80% control of the company. AIG was deliberately NOT put into bankruptcy, because it would have collapsed the entire company and sent the world financial markets into meltdown. The goal was to keep the company going until the elements of AIG could be spun off under more favorable market conditions. That would pay the loaned $ 80 billion back and in the immortal words of Hank Paulsen, the American taxpayer would make a profit.

Once the government took the stock deal and passed on the bankruptcy, the contracts were valid and enforceable. That’s contract law in general, and certainly Connecticut State law.

The stimulus bill protected these contracts, and any such contracts entired into before February 11, 2009 by AIG or anyone else.

There are four layers of law that the House violated today. Any lawyer worth his salt would make any absolute killing taking the case of the AIG execs.

The bonuses did not go to reward failure. These execs, regardless of what they did before the bailout, were the key in reducing AIG’s exposure in the credit swap derivatives market by over $ 1.1 trillion. That kept the company intact and afloat until now, and that is why they were paid a retention bomnus, not a performance bonus.

They performed a task, and are due the compensation promised under state and Federal law and general contract law.

You have shown yourself ignorant on these matters. If you shut your piehole you might learn something, but somehow, it is my impression that you think you are already omnisicient.


222 posted on 03/19/2009 4:42:37 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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