Go where? Are you talking about Bush's DUI.
Yeah, I'll go there.
Stealing versus drinking. I'll take a guy that was a drunk and is now a non-drinker. Versus a thief. But that's just me.
I just think stealing is basically a need to get something that you want without working for it. It seems to show a need for material things and how important the external signs of wealth/status/whatever are to a person that is a thief.
A DUI can come from drinking and celebrating with bad luck on the drive home... but most DUI's I've seen at work and heard about from friends and acquaintances are from alcoholics. They either admit they have a problem or are pathologic and can't be trusted with anything because of the lies that they have to live in order to prove that alcohol or drugs don't rule their lives.
So yeah, I guess I'll go there. Character matters.
So if my choice is between a thief or an alcoholic, I'll chose neither. If it's between a thief and an alcoholic that is on the wagon and has admitted his inability to cope with drinking and takes responsibility for his character flaw... Then I'll take the honest guy.
Is that what you mean?
I agree.
I’m with you, erman. A shoplifting adult betrays a real dishonesty and thieving lack of character.
A DUI is not bad luck, it is poor decision making. President Bush obviously overcame his past based on his recent performance. It is his recent performance that he was re-elected on.
Your argument is based on a false premise. It is not stealing versus drinking, it is stealing versus a DUI. You try to minimize one deviant behavior and excuse it while demonizing the other. Have you ever been hit by a drunk driver? Have you lost a loved one because of DUI? Yet, knowing the risks to others, drunks get behind the wheel and lie to themselves thinking they will cause no harm. If you want to talk about honesty, the most dishonest people are drunks who get behind the wheel thinking they will do no harm.
While making the comparison, you ignore recent behavior. Both men are flawed and both had sins in a distant past, yet, you want the past to stick to one but not the other? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Why not judge people by who they are and what they are doing now? There is plenty of damning evidence to disqualify this guy and most any democrat. Why is that not enough?
You come off looking extremely petty and just plain silly trying to say one sin committed 20 years ago is worse than another, that one is OK and another will disqualify you for life.
Bottom line is, your logic is flawed. You are holding Republicans to one standard, a lower one, and Democrats to a higher one. This is the very behavior that makes my head spin when it comes to the media, but it's always Republicans held to the higher standard. So what do we do, we demand an even playing field. But even isnt what you want. You are no better than the libs in the press who tilt the news in favor of Dems. This does nothing for our party but make us look exactly like Dims to the uninformed because the bottom line behavior is exactly the same.
My advice to you is to grow up and live in the here and now. Take the plank out of your own eye so you can see clearly when taking the splinter out of others eyes. You are what is wrong with the Republican party. We do not convince others we are different by acting like Democrats. If it's a disgusting practice when Dims do it, it is just as disgusting and vile when Republicans do it.