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To: browardchad
Leaving aside your insults, where in Hawaiian Statute [§338-17.8] -- enacted in 1982 -- does it say that a Hawaii will issue a certificate for a child born out of state and also change the place of birth to Hawaii?

You said NOWHERE does it say Hawaii will change the place of birth. There would be no change with the certificate of birth. It would be fraudulent information given in order to obtain that type of BC. What exactly do you think applying for certificate of birth in Hawaii was about? A form was filled out by a parent with details.

The answer is "nowhere." You can speculate and theorize that they did, but you can't state it as a fact , since no one -- including the attornies filing these lawsuits -- has come up with any evidence that Hawaii changed the place of birth on any such certificate.

Until obama shows his stuff, everything you are posting is speculation. So go ahead and continue on.

The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program applies to "a person born in Hawaii who was one year or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii," so how is that relevant?

You have proof obama's mother registered obama before a year old? Let's see the evidence.

283 posted on 03/17/2009 3:44:08 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: OafOfOffice
It would be fraudulent information given in order to obtain that type of BC.

OK, now you're arguing fraudulence, but before you were citing the statute. Either way, there has to be evidence. Have you seen any evidence?

What exactly do you think applying for certificate of birth in Hawaii was about? A form was filled out by a parent with details.

I think they required a bit more than someone strolling into the DOH and filling out a form. Things like a doctor or midwife's affidavit, or at least some proof that the baby existed. But "Got baby? Here's a cert!" -- I don't think so.

Until obama shows his stuff, everything you are posting is speculation. So go ahead and continue on.

No, unfortunately, it's the other way around. The courts don't operate on what could have happened, they need some assurance that these things -- such as casual registration of births without proof -- actually did happen, on a regular basis, at the time and place specified. No one has come up with anything that supports your theories.

You have proof obama's mother registered obama before a year old? Let's see the evidence.

Why do I need proof? You referred to that old statute, and I said I didn't think it was relevant. If you think it is, that's your prerogative.

305 posted on 03/17/2009 4:13:05 PM PDT by browardchad
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