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To: colorado tanker
Why won't he produce it? It suits his purposes to have us waste energy on something that will not do anything to get him out of office or stop his agenda, while looking like moonbats in the process.

It might be worth his time to have us chasing our tails while he is dismantling the economy. If he can make this go away if it becomes too inconvenient and it keeps us distracted from the clear and present danger that a socialist America-hater poses to our country, Obama and Pelosi may benefit from the questions.

I don't claim to understand Obama's mind, or even to be sure whether he has one, but I think we need to be careful how we divide our attention. Obama is doing exceptionally grave damage to the security and the future of the United States, and the birth certificate issue may be a dead end that will distract us from more productive options (if they exist).

101 posted on 03/17/2009 12:21:03 PM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: TurtleUp
Obama is doing exceptionally grave damage to the security and the future of the United States, and the birth certificate issue may be a dead end that will distract us from more productive options (if they exist).

His poll numbers are falling fast and some red state Dems are beginning to pay attention. The first big test will be if we can pull enough votes to force a rewrite of that awful budget.

113 posted on 03/17/2009 12:24:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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To: TurtleUp

“It might be worth his time to have us chasing our tails while he is dismantling the economy.”

no it just diverts Alan Keyes. This is now his job and the mainstream conservatives focus on the economy and other issues.


116 posted on 03/17/2009 12:25:52 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: TurtleUp; AndrewWalden
The most perplexing question raised by this debate has always been: If Obama was born in Hawaii, why not just show the birth certificate and put the issue to rest?

There are two possible answers (and perhaps a third, although less likely one):

(1) Obama WAS born in Hawaii and COULD produce the actual certificate any time he wants. Yet, he chooses not to because it suits his purposes. If this controversy did reach a fever pitch and some “mainstream”, famous people took up the cause — (say, Rush for example) — then he could spring the “proof” and brand all his opponents as fringe, goof ball whackos who have no credibility. Meanwhile, the more people who chase down the rabbit trail leading to nowhere, the better for Obama.

(2) OR, he was born in Kenya, they got his birth registered in Hawaii some days later because they wanted him to be a U.S. Citizen, and revealing the real certificate would reveal the scam.

(3) OR, he was born in Hawaii but there is some other reason not to show the actual certificate — something about his father's ID, perhaps. This one seems far fetched to me.

Explanation Number One seems to fit pretty well and is AT LEAST as likely as the second one. Revealing the true certificate later, rather than sooner, could do Obama’s enemies much more damage.

148 posted on 03/17/2009 12:45:45 PM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: TurtleUp

So go work on that project and let other people work on this project. And some people can do two things at once.


198 posted on 03/17/2009 1:52:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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To: TurtleUp
but I think we need to be careful how we divide our attention

Some FReepers are actually capable of walking and chewing gum simultaneously

207 posted on 03/17/2009 2:09:17 PM PDT by tomkat (lexington, concord, flyover)
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