Red Cross Described 'Torture' at CIA Jails (Freepers Describe Terror at World Trade Center)

The Washington Post ^ | Monday, March 16, 2009 | Joby Warrick, Peter Finn and Julie Tate

[kristinn]

As the years go by and the lawyers try to run the war, it should be remembered that on that September day in 2001 scores of innocents on airplanes were tortured and murdered by al Qaeda terrorists. And that thousands more faced the horrid choice of leaping to their death or suffocating and burning to death at the World Trade Center while others at the Pentagon were burned alive by flaming jet fuel.

I am glad that President Bush approved the interrogation methods mentioned in this report. My only problem is that none of those captured has been dispatched to hell where they belong.

[TASMANIANRED]

Did you just sign up to post that bilge.

[anniegetyourgun]

No place to put detainees? Chain them together and down, put them all in a tall building, and remotely crash a large plan into the building. Send copy of videotape of the event to Al-Jazeera.

[Tex Pete]

Other than “beatings,” which I would like to see verified elsewhere, I don’t see anything in that “report” that constitutes torture.

[what's up]

People will say/do anything under torture

The false stuff is dross. But the true stuff can be verified and checked and thereby future attacks can be prevented...for example the info gained which preventd the creeps from getting on planes at Heathrow and flying planes over the US to explode them.

How do you intend to get information out of these people? A whiskey over a game of cards? Get real.

[Neverforget01]

Torture does not work

To paraphrase a famous President--it depends on the definition.

BTW, welcome to FR

[Ancient Drive]

I think he did.. 2 days ago. ZOT!

[papasmurf]

Such maltreatment of detainees is expressly prohibited by the Geneva Conventions.

Well, there you go. The Geneva needs to be updated to encompass today's world of International Terrorism.

And why shouldn't it be? If we are to spread the "protection" of the Geneva to those not wearing uniforms, without a Chain of Command, and following no predefined rules, regulations, or disciplines, why shouldn't they modify it to accommodate the current trending circumstances???

It's archaic, irrelevant, and rewards the very evil it is designed to stop.

[dfwgator]

The report, an account of alleged physical and psychological brutality inside CIA "black site" prisons, also states that some U.S. practices amounted to "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment." Such maltreatment of detainees is expressly prohibited by the Geneva Conventions.

Don't tell me, they brought out the LeRoy Neiman paintings.

[freespirited]

He discounted the possibility that the detainees fabricated or embellished their stories, noting that the accounts overlap "in minute detail," even though the detainees were kept in isolation at different locations.

Oh puhleeze. Ever occur to these bleeeeeeeding hearts that they are all trained to tell the same whoppers?

BTW, let's everyone remember that this "International Committee of the Red Cross" is not the same as the American Red Cross. It's some left wing outfit that has put out this sort of thing before.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

“Torture does not work.”

Guess again.

“viscious”

Tell the folks at DU to update your spell-check software.

[usmcobra]

When anti war protesters are arrested for torture when they water board each other Then maybe I’ll believe it is torture.

Maybe....

[Shadowstrike]

To save American lives from these people (and I use that term loosely) I would do things that would make my American Indian Ancestors cringe.

Put that in you peace pipe and smoke it.

[Darkwolf377]

I wish the Red Cross folks were this concerned with what Palestinians do on a regular basis.

[17th Miss Regt]

Also remember that these scum are trained from day one to accuse us of torture. It is simply part of the training. Never trust what they say without plenty of corroboration. To them, lying is not immoral, just a way to get what they want.

[papasmurf]

Torture does not work

That's BS. We have mechanisms in place to verify what is told, whether it's told under duress or not.

I'm not an advocate of torture, only refreshing the definition of it. But your statement is just false.

[ansel12]

“Torture does not work. People will say/do anything under torture”

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That is ridiculous, you don’t just grab somebody randomly, hurt them and then tell them to tell you what they know about life.

There is a reason why an interrogator is professionally trained and why prisoners are rated as to value.

If someone ever comes into your house and starts torturing you to get details that they know you have, then you just cling to your fantasy that it won’t work and that they won’t be able to identify when you are attempting to deceive them with lies.