Posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup
You were saying — “Any thought of Israel getting attacked by anyone should cause Christians to rush to their defense.”
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Unfortunately, these days, a significant number of Christians work against Israel, on matters of their security and seem to support the Palestinians, against the interests of Israel, in providing a “national homeland dedicated to the Jews”.
Many of these Christians seem to want a nation composed of both Jews and Muslims, where it’s clear the Muslims will outvote the Jews and take over the country and remake it into a Muslim country under Sharia law and remove the name of “Israel” from the country. The will rename the country Palestine, instead.
This seems to be what a lot of Christians are working towards..., as they see Israel is another “apartheid state” like South Africa was...
And Jews continue to vote Democratic....
You said — “Bottom line, the Truman Administration was against Israel Statehood, and at almost the last minute the Doctrine was changed.”
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It does seem that the Truman Administration was against granting Israel sovereign nation status — but I don’t believe Truman was against it. I know that he had politics to be concerned about in his administration, but I still believe he was always for granting the Jews their own national homeland. He just had to fight his entire administration on the issue... :-)
...the hand that held the dagger has struck it into the back of its neighbor.This time, the hand holding the dagger is the United States, and the back is that of our long-suffering friend, Israel.
Two state solution? That's just warmed over Nazi salami tactics.
You were saying — “Two state solution? That’s just warmed over Nazi salami tactics.”
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Unfortunately, the “one-state solution” would result in a quick and immediate demise of Israel as a national homeland for the Jews. It would be called “Palestine” in the very next election...
Four million or more of the population of the P.A. areas, thrown into the voting mix of Israel, as in a “one-state solution”, would eliminate Israel in short order.
The solution is the 1973 borders. Send the “palestinians” back to Jordan or better yet, put them up in Dubai: plenty of empty accommodations there.
You said — “The solution is the 1973 borders. Send the palestinians back to Jordan or better yet, put them up in Dubai: plenty of empty accommodations there.”
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The only problem is that they are *there* right now. And..., I do not believe you’re going to get those other countries to accept these people... LOL..
So, Israel is *stuck* with the people they’ve got, with none of these other countries accepting them. I mean, who in their right minds (what country) is going to accept a population of Palestinians who have been engaged in fighting and war and terrorist activities for all this time? They would have to be idiots to accept those people
Israel is stuck with them. So, a “one-state solution” ends up with all those people being “in Israel” — for as long as Israel lasts, which will be until the “next election”... :-)
I hope you see the problem. There’s *no solution* that Israel can get to “work”...
In seriousness, I propose perseverance in the status quo. Stall the talks, stonewall.
With apologies to Winston Churchill, it is the worst possible plan, except for all the others.
As the song goes, “The Captain of the Host is JESUS!”
Yep, in order to preserve the state of Israel as a national homeland for the Jews, the only thing that can work at the present time is to stall with the status quo, as you say.
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And yet they constantly vote over 70% to turn the USA into their enemy -
Strange -
Elections have consequences -
Hussein II is not going to give them a bailout -
YUP! YES INDEED!
i THINK I posted such Scriptures [not the ref’s]
between your post I’m replying to and this one.
I’ll try and find such in a bit.
It’s not exactly as you stated it.
It’s that ISRAEL WILL NOT BE DISPERSED AND RETURNED MORE THAN ONE TIME BETWEEN CHRIST AND ARMAGEDDON . . .
It’s more an inference and extrapolation . . .
however, an inference and extrapolation that is clearly the only alternative given some specific Scriptures.
The prophecy from Christ that Israel would be dispersed for rejecting Christ.
Then, that Israel would be returned to the Holy Land as a people; speak Hebrew; etc. etc. dozens of prophecies would pile into fulfillment IN THE SAME ERA wherein Israel was returned and made a Nation again in a day—1948 . . .
And that Armageddon would be one of the END TIMES prophecies fulfilled IN THAT ERA.
Thus, from Christ’s prediction of such and the dispersal in 70 A.D. Israel was not returned until 1948.
That return in 1948 began the clock in ‘more rapid paced fulfillment’ in terms of all the other END TIMES prophecies—which INCLUDE
—the global government led by satan;
—The Mark of The Beast—without which it will not be “POSSIBLE” to buy or sell as well as unlawful;
—the two witnesses viewed by the whole earth—not possible since Christ until world wide TV and net;
—knowledge being vastly increased and shared widely in the world;
—rapid travel to and fro upon the earth;
—dramatic signs in the heavens of a markedly unusual nature;
. . . etc. etc. etc.
I think I listed 19 in that list and there’s another above in this post about the 2 witnesses being seen over the whole world.
. . . including as a concluding exclamation point of God’s Glory literal Armageddon and Christ’s conquest over all His foes thereat.
You might have thought my original comment strange but I was actually referring to a link about “FLY OUR FLAG AND BE TAGGED A TERRORIST”.
Our world’s going crazy now!
INDEED.
so, do you still need me to track down that other post or are we cool?
Religion for most of us is the pursuit of communication with God.
For others, it's only a cover for disease.
I'll pray for you
Let’s leverage the good demographic news
[in Israel, Jewish births rising, Arab fertility falling]
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Posted on 02/24/2009 5:56:49 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2193297/posts
The Future of Judaism
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1328261/posts
Druze in Golan vote for rightwing Zionist Avigdor Lieberman & religious Jewish Shas
INN | 02,09
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2188409/posts
The Vote of Orthodox Jews in the US Election
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302828/posts
-in the UK-
Jewish population on the increase (First time in the UK since WW2)
BBC NEWS | Wednesday, 21 May 2008 | Robert Pigott
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2025008/posts
Don Feder: How to Take the Chill Out of Demographic Winter
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1928399/posts
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