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To: TigerLikesRooster
Something I haven't seen addressed is HOW is it possible for someone to have "spent" the figure bandied about ($50 Billion) without the majority of it having had to be in the some form or another of tangible "stuff?"

After all regardless of how profligate a person is, you just cannot blow that much money of on the old "booze and broads and baubles" and even then the "baubles" would still be of value.

I mean even if one were to "blow" a cool Million a day, it would still take about 2 years and 8 months to get to a Billion and multiply that times 50, well.........?

Thus my curiosity is WHAT happened or what did he do with all that money?

18 posted on 03/15/2009 4:14:28 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Thus my curiosity is WHAT happened or what did he do with all that money? Besides taking a nice chunk for himself, he was paying off clients a constant ~10% on their money. That is a pretty good burn rate.
20 posted on 03/15/2009 4:53:32 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
You are correct in that Madoff couldn't spend that much money on himself. The 50 billion is the total that flowed thru his hands.

Example: Bernie gets 5 million from "A" to invest. Bernie then buys a newspaper, pays his rent, and has a business lunch that he pays for with "A"'s money with "B", "C", "D", and "E". Bernie gives each of his guests a check for $50,000.00, (From that $5 mill), and sends the rest out as "dividends" to the rest of his patsies.

His greedy investors send more money to Madoff to "invest", that Madoff, after paying his own bills, recyles out. The greedy ones give out $1,000,000, get back $150,000.00 and THINK they have made a profit. Like us and the Social Security System, we all believe that the original million is safe somewhere.

We've all been lied to.

23 posted on 03/15/2009 5:06:59 AM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Black Birch
Did you all read this:

"I think there should be some legislation," he said finally. What kind of legislation?Watch out! That means he wants taxpayer money! What he was hoping for, he said, was that the government would set up a fund for Madoff victims — maybe give them 60 percent of their losses, he suggested.Why stop at 60%? How about the taxpayers just give you back 100% - and in turn you all donate a few more millions to Democrats, just like you did before. We turned a corner, and saw a long line of people waiting for a spot in the courtroom — far more people, it was obvious, than could ever fit in the chambers. (There was a large overflow room, where I watched the proceedings.) Most of them were holding notebooks; this was clearly the media line. "Is there a line for the victims?" the man asked the marshal. "Are you a victim?" said the marshal. As the man nodded yes....I've got news for this jerk: "Victims" in courtrooms are people whose daughters were raped and murdered. "Victims" are not rich Democrats who foolishly gave all their money to another rich Democrat who paid them back an annual return in the double digits every year. They all knew this was a sham.

Many of Madoff's investors have been left with nothing, having foolishly entrusted their life savings to a man they thought "was God," as Elie Wiesel put it not long ago. Wiesel's foundation lost more than $15 million in the Madoff fraud, and he and his wife, Marion, lost their personal fortune as well. Well, that't the problem, isn't i? God is God. You can't serve two masters.

33 posted on 03/15/2009 5:41:07 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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