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To: EternalVigilance

I do think they are unalienable everywhere. Everywhere - including China.

I, however, will accept incremental progress toward that goal from where ever I can get it.

If righting a legal wrong creates, for the first time since Roe v. Wade, actual places to live in the US that revere these inalienable rights, then it will only bring more pressure on places that don’t have such rights.

There is a psychic cost of abortion that redounds to everyone living in a place that condones such crimes against humanity. This has been seen in Germany, the South during the Civil War. The transgressions of a few have been codified unconstitutionally such that every citizen in the US is responsible, by fiat of 9 people.

Correct the legal error, and there will be a great many that can vote with their feet and live somewhere that respects those rights.

That’s better than the status quo - it removes the stain of murder from over half the State Houses.

You, however, want it all, and want it now. Not only an unrealistic expectation, but a self-defeating one - in that it strengthens the resolve of your opponents.


65 posted on 03/13/2009 2:24:23 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

You can’t stop a holocaust by compromising with it. If that was possible, it would already have ended, since this has been the approach of the “pro-life” “leadership” for the last 35 years.

Some of us aren’t buying it any more.

The only way to stop evil is to fight it with every ounce of your strength.


68 posted on 03/13/2009 2:32:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: RinaseaofDs; EternalVigilance
Correct the legal error, and there will be a great many that can vote with their feet and live somewhere that respects those rights. That’s better than the status quo - it removes the stain of murder from over half the State Houses. You, however, want it all, and want it now. Not only an unrealistic expectation, but a self-defeating one - in that it strengthens the resolve of your opponents.

I totally agree. And to give him (her?) the benefit of the doubt, I think that if EternalVigilance were sent as a missionary to a remote jungle where abortion was practiced, he would work patiently with people to first gain their trust and attention, and then lay the foundations of a moral system, and eventually introduce positive improvements like the benefits of marriage and preparing for children and forming an economy to support them.

What he fails to recognize is that our population is now largely peopled by youths who have been culturally deprived of a moral education and environment. They need a long, patient reeducation; they need inspiration and a much more comprehensive view than merely overturning a long-established law, however heinous, can possibly provide.

It's easy to forget that it took a bloody Civil War and millions of wounded or dead to even begin to overturn slavery; then the Confederacy had to be occupied by the Union and kept down economically for an entire century before our country had the strength to fight the second phase of civil rights for blacks, an end to Jim Crow.

Supporters of abortion have demonstrated not only their ignorance and venality, but their absolute determination to fight to the death even of our country and our freedoms to defend it -- why? Because the fight is not about abortion, but against principalities and powers. We can't be so naive as to think that overturning Roe is going to settle a fight that has already taken up nearly half a century and millions of fetal lives.

Conservatives must regard themselves as missionaries who will work patiently with the ignorant and deluded youth of our nation. Only when the Abolitionists convinced a majority that slavery's moral wrongs outweighed the potential losses of a Civil War could the battle be engaged. The price was horrific and lingers to this day. A president lost his life, and his moderating hand on the horrors of Reconstruction was lost. The price of cleansing our nation from this sin may also be substantial.

Matthew 24:19 (KJV)
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

91 posted on 03/13/2009 3:32:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I, however, will accept incremental progress toward that goal from where ever I can get it.

Except the way it works, is one step forward and two steps back, for conservatives.

121 posted on 03/13/2009 4:31:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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