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Frum's Right on Limbaugh and GOP: Conservatives, Republicans Must Evolve
US World and News Report ^ | 3/13/09 | Mary Kate Cary

Posted on 03/13/2009 1:08:18 PM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant

Conservatives must change and hope.


61 posted on 03/13/2009 2:27:56 PM PDT by alrea (4% profit on a gallon of gas is obscene but over 15% tax isn't)
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To: pissant

Another intimidated conservative who thinks the way to beat the left is to look more like it. It’s watered down, milque toast conservatism that cost us the White House and that may cost us the country, but that doesn’t make kowtowing and compromise the right thing to do. I don’t want “He couldn’t beat ‘em, so he joined ‘em” carved on my headstone.


62 posted on 03/13/2009 2:32:55 PM PDT by Spok (The Sinopian Sage)
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To: wolf24
Translation: Republicans need to compromise all of their principles for the sake of getting elected. Just do whatever it takes to get elected because getting elected, in and of itself, is the policy. That's it.

Why can't Republican candidates run as center-left candidates to get elected, then govern as far right conservatives?

Their opponents have been winning by campaigning as center-right candidates, then governing as far left liberals for years.

They seem to be succeeding with their strategy while the "principled" conservatives are losing.

63 posted on 03/13/2009 2:34:46 PM PDT by been_lurking
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To: LucyJo

Evolve beyond David Frum. I hate getting personal, but he does have a “missing link” look.


64 posted on 03/13/2009 2:47:51 PM PDT by x
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To: pissant

Blah blah blah. This idiot Mary Kate Cary could have summed it up in one phrase: “The parasites now outnumber the hosts and unless the Republicans become “Democrat-lite”, they are doomed.”

America is dead and gone. What’s left is a land mass populated by cretins and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them.

It is not an America worth defending anymore.
Every man for himself.


65 posted on 03/13/2009 2:52:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant
Principles aren't "modulated." They are either upheld or sacrificed.

Screw the GOP before it screws you!

66 posted on 03/13/2009 3:14:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: pissant
the Republican Party needs to evolve

Sorry, you are either for reason, pursuit of one's own individual happiness, individual natural rights, independent nonparasitical mentality, limited government, and capitalism or you're not. There is no compromise with these principles of the Founding Fathers.

67 posted on 03/13/2009 3:39:27 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: x
"missing link" look

Maybe it's all that "modulatin'" they've been doing.

68 posted on 03/13/2009 3:50:13 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: pissant

Damn! Where’s my slingshot. There are too many of these dragoons running around out there. God, I think I’m glad to be living in Texas, in the middle of a forest.


69 posted on 03/13/2009 5:11:29 PM PDT by Jukeman (.)
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To: Edit35
Lastly, there is no such thing as a “fiscal conservative and social liberal” ...

Actually Bill Weld, former governor of Mass. was a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

But only in the corrupt liberal garbage dump of Massachusetts politics could such a bizarre hybrid survive. And we haven't seen another one like him.

70 posted on 03/13/2009 6:09:39 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: iacovatx
What has the Democrat Party done to achieve its recent election successes?

Well, unless they convinced the GOP to run McCain or somehow sank the economy on purpose, I'd say "nothing".

71 posted on 03/13/2009 6:18:08 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: pissant

For people that are concerned more about a political party than political ideals, maybe this makes sense. It your primary goal is to win elections, regardless of the means, then we don’t need political parties at all. Just let the pollsters pick the office holders.
On the other hand, there are those that are more concerned about a political ideology or a philosophy than a political party. Does the GOP stand for anything? That is the question that needs to be asked, not how can we win elections.


72 posted on 03/13/2009 6:32:47 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: pissant

Mary, you evolve.

The rest of us will stick to our principles.


73 posted on 03/13/2009 6:33:53 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: pissant

Sorry, wrong answer.

You want to fix health care? Several things must be done.

1. Tort reform.
2. Stop treating illegal immigrants.
3. Significant update of medical billing codes to increase the number of codes so the right procedure/right kind of person can get billed at the right rate.
4. Stop forcing doctors and hospitals to have language translators for patients (per Clinton’s EO) driving up costs no matter how big or small the practice is.
5. Allow doctors and nurses to continue to have opt-out conscience clauses on procedures they believe are immoral.

There are other things but these are ones that come to mind first.


74 posted on 03/13/2009 6:39:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: pissant

If you want to get right down to it, conservatism is really about slowing the pace of change. Conserving. And since things in the universe progress from order to chaos it’s probably a good thing that someone is trying to slow the deterioration.

I’m talking about core cultural changes like our current progression away from personal responsibility. Not about changes such as the Internet or using alternative energy.

Someone has to do this since once the change has become ingrained in society it is damn near impossible to reverse it without some traumatic societal upheaval.


75 posted on 03/13/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: Hanna548

And look how well it works for the people who think that is the way to go.

Their only core belief is that conservatives must moderate themselves.

No wonder why we cannot stand these morons.


76 posted on 03/13/2009 6:41:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: pissant

No, sorry, Mary Kate. When it comes to conservatism I prefer intelligent design, and on that score, David Frum is not smarter than Trig Palin.


77 posted on 03/13/2009 6:51:45 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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