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To: higgmeister

OK, I followed the link, so my next question is why should an anti-gay marriage referendum cause new waves of persecution against Mormons? Do the lite loafers think Mormons are the only religion against gay marriage? What’s the deal here?


34 posted on 03/13/2009 9:24:08 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister
Do the lite loafers think Mormons are the only religion against gay marriage? What’s the deal here?

For one, LDS contributed somewhere around 40% of the funds to pass the ballot initiative. (Kudos to LDS for that)

Two, LDS are only about 2% of the population and already have ostracized mainstream culture with its social shenanigans of past open racism and polygamy -- and that's past and future polygamy [and supposedly present in the colony of Kolob]. I say "future" because LDS leaders have taught in our lifetime that the Mormon jesus will re-institute polygamy when he returns.

So the provocative Mormons [please note that their social shenanigans provoked others; most of the time it wasn't the other way around] thereby become an "easy" identifiable target for homosexuals and the social left.

So, what's a social conservative to do?

#1 We should stand with the Mormons in defending them re: Prop 8.
#2 And -- we should acknowledge that for the past 153 years, the Republicans were way ahead of the Democrats in opposing slavery and polygamy. In 1856, the fledgling Republican party set its social agenda upon eradicating what they called then "the twin relics of barbarism" -- slavery and polygamy.

Too many FREEPER and other conservatives think that if we critique the LDS we are joining in the social left's campaign against Prop 8. The answer to that is "you need a history lesson." The Republican party has taken on slavery & racism & protecting monogamy since our very birth. This isn't some new "sudden" campaign. This is who we are at our core.

So keep all this in mind when LDS conservative social leaders like Orson Card, who is BTW, very solid on most of these social issues, plays the historical victim card of "Woe is me. LDS have been oppressed and persecuted." A good chunk of what he's talking about is grassroots Republicans and their leaders fighting the Mormon polygamy and racist agenda from 1856 on.

'Tis too easy for them to play this victim card minus qualifications. For example, they could say, "Woe is us. A Mormon Democrat from Utah was elected to Congress in 1898. They wouldn't seat him. They sent him home. We're an oppressed, persecuted people."

But what's the Paul-Harvey-rest of the story? Well, what they likely won't tell you is that this elected candidate, B.H. Roberts, took a third wife around 1894 -- about 4 years after the LDS supposedly "shut the door" on polygamy. [And why won't tell you? Because LDS leaders and apologists have successfully propagandized into their minds that polygamy ended in 1890 and that was that...not mentioning that LDS leaders solemnized another 220-250 plural marriages between 1890 and 1910]

In 1898, riled-up Republicans and others delivered a 28-roll, 7-million signature banners to Congress to influence them to not seat Roberts. Congress u-turned Roberts back home.

This is our free republic heritage operating at full cultural speed ahead!

35 posted on 03/14/2009 5:32:33 AM PDT by Colofornian
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