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To: razorboy
Your problem comes in with the “defeated”. See to defeat all comers they have to play everybody and beat them. It’s rare in sports for anybody to play the whole league (though the NBA and NHL do it, but with very few games across to the other conference), but you make the not just play the whole league but BEAT everybody. That’s just not gonna happen. And of course in the tournament section, the playoff tree part of the schedule, as you point out, comers will be eliminated before your world champion gets to face them. So therefore your world champion will NOT have “defeated all comers” and therefore NOT, by your definition, be a World Champion.

Your semantics are ridiculous. Defeating the rest of the field means winning the competition according to the previously agreed rules.

If it's a race, then 1st place defeats everyone else.

If it's a series of races, then it's the best combination of results that wins.

If it's a league, it's the best league points total.

If it's a sudden death knockout competition it's the last team undefeated (but they don't play everyone, just one other team per elimination round.)

You are making up ridiculous criteria and applying them to things I never said to justify your indefensible position.

Have you ever actually competed in any kind of competition? just wondering..

You can label all sports titles as trivial if you so choose, but there are millions of people who make a living from those sports and their income is affected by their success, or lack of it, based on those titles.

And just what is your point about FIFA? It was founded in 1906 to administer the international game, it oversaw the soccer in the 1908 Olympics and added members from beyond Europe shortly after that. Argentina, Chile, The USA and South Africa all joined before the First World War. By the time they put together the World Cup it was a worldwide organization. It now has over 200 member countries. So I don't understand your beef. The World Cup is a Global competition, and even from the outset had robust international participation.

242 posted on 03/29/2009 7:47:44 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Wil H

Talk about ridiculous semantics. You said to be a world champion you need to defeat all comers. Again if you want to change that go ahead but admit what you said. You’re the one that made up ridiculous criteria, I’m pointing it out, and now you want to weasel away and pretend you didn’t say it. “Defeat all comers” means defeat all comers, if you don’t like what it means retract, but don’t pretend it doesn’t mean it. Funny for a guy so picky about the high and important meaning of “World Champion” you sure are quick to want to make up new and lesser meanings for “defeat all comers”.

I’m not going to answer your well poisoning question because it’s immaterial.

People make money on trivial things. There’s many trivial industry, tourism, TV entertainment, movies, crafts, out door hobbies, and yes sports. It’s all still trivial. Fun, but trivial.

My point about FIFA, which has been plainly stated multiple times, is that they’re just another organization that unilaterally decided they got to declare national champions. Just like the NFL. You complain about the NFL making that decision all by themselves but ignore the fact that every organization that has ever handed out any title, which include FIFA and ISAF and all your other pet groups, made the exact same unilateral decision. All world champions are the result of a unilateral decision, by somebody wanting to make money on trivial things.


243 posted on 03/29/2009 9:04:15 PM PDT by razorboy
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