There is nothing “impossible” about the definition I gave of a World Champion, it is the model used by just about every international sport, namely:
1 A World Champion is the winner of a World Championship.
2 The World Championship is a competition structured and conducted by the international governing body of the sport in question.
3 The international governing body is that organization that administers the sport world wide and is typically an umbrella for all the individual National organizations.
For instance:
FIFA administers Soccer world wide and runs the World Cup. Underneath FIFA are regional organizations such as UEFA, CONCACAF, etc that run regional international competitions at both the club and inter-country level, Below them are the individual national organizations running their respective domestic competitions.
In motorsports you have the FIA that administers international racing such as Formula 1, the World Touring Car Championship and a host of other International competitions. It provides an umbrella for national organizations, world wide.
In sailing the international governing body is ISAF. They publish the rules, maintain world standings, and provide an umbrella for national organizations. They also run a World Cup competition in certain classes.
Other international classes have there own World Championships staged jointly under the auspices of ISAF and the respective International Class Association in conjunction with their National Class Associations.
I could go on, there are countless examples of sports that function this way, tennis, cricket, rugby, swimming, gymnastics etc, etc.....EXCEPT American Football.
American Football’s World governing body is IFAF, it holds World Championships every four years just like soccer’s World Cup. IFAF has 50 member nations. The USA member organization is USAF. The NFL is listed as a “partner” to IFAF and has employees on USAF’s board.
The most recent American Football World Championship was held two years ago in Japan.
So the NFL’s unilateral declaration of a “World Champion” is completely at odds with just about every sport in the entire world.
But by YOUR Definition, it doesn’t matter because anyone can call any competition anything they like.
That is the liberal “feel good” way of awarding yourself undeserved credit. There is no gravitas to the title in that situation.
It’s like all the liberals calling hillary clinton “the smartest woman in the world” - there is absolutely no evidence to support that conjecture whatsoever, but by constantly saying so they think they will confer that title on her.
You say winners can call themselves the “King of Siam” if they want. OK, but it would be meaningless to do so wouldn’t it because they wouldn’t actually be the King of Siam and everyone would know it (just like the NFL “world Champions”), so why bother?
So go to Thailand and announce that you are the King of Siam and see what His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej has to say about that. He might have you arrested, but you could tell him “hey - it’s just words”.
But that’s not the definition you gave. Here’s the definition you gave in post 229:
In my world, a World Champion is champion of a world wide sport that has defeated all comers on a world stage at a World Championship.
Note the important phrase “defeated all comers”. That’s impossible. By your definition, which you put forth in 229, there has never been a world champion in any sport ever. Now if you want to back track on that go ahead, but acknowledge what you said.
Meanwhile your new definition is much closer to the truth. The problem is you’re all hung up on this international thing. You got item 1 right, a World Champion is the winner of the World Championship. But after that you’re way off in a silly never never land that puts way too much importance on sports, silly worlds, and international approval. A World Championship is any competition where-in the governing body (international or not) SAYS it’s a World Championship.
Because the reality is ANY group declaring they have the World Championship IS a unilateral decision. FIFA, FIA, ISAF and anybody else you want to mention were just as unilateral in their declarations of running World Championships as the NFL and MLB. Remember FIFA was declaring World Champions even they were just a European organization.
There’s nothing that says these groups SHOULD be running the World Championship other than the fact that the decided the do. There could be a split in any of these organizations similar to the IRL-CART argument or various boxing associations, and there could easily be multiple World Champions in that sport until the schism is healed.
Sorry but all the liberal feel good in this discussion is coming from you, the guy worshiping international governing bodies.
Ahh you’re finally starting to get the point. Yes it would be worthless to declare their champion the King of all Siam. Just as it’s worthless to declare a champion the World Champion, or the Stanley Cup Champion or any other title. It’s ALL worthless because it’s JUST SPORTS. We bother because sports are fun, but sports and sports titles have no meaning, no worth. They’re just silly little titles we attach to silly little games that we spend far too much time following. And arguing about.