We may very well be talking past each other because I still don’t understand where you are coming from. What exactly do you mean by “metainfo”? Are you referring to the genome?
“Muller gives NO evidence for NEW non species specific info”
That is one scientist who co-authored a few papers about very specific genetic data and about very specific species relationships. The rest of the data is produced by the rest of the scientific community.
I still don’t know what you mean by “species specific info”. Are you referring to DNA nucleotides?
I don’t think I should argue further until you clarify this.
the metainfo is the higher info that controls all lower info, or subinfo in species
[[The rest of the data is produced by the rest of the scientific community.]]
There is no ‘rest of the data’ that I’m aware of, only assumptions without evidence, and a priori beliefs.
Species specific- each species has it’;s own set of metainfo which controls all species specific lower info, as well as prevents outside manipulations beyond their own species specific parameters- that is why species can ONLY be manipulated within certain species specific ‘guidelines’ or parameters- that is why fruitflies remain fruitflies regardless of how many mutaitons your throw at them (whcih sceicne certainly has done in hopes of chasing the ever elusive unicorn of Macroevolution), that is why ducks remain ducks- kinds remain kinds- following hte evidence, both through repetable experiments in the present, and the evidence of the fossils, shows just what htey show- discontinuity, and species specific parameters preventing continuity. Species have several built in, coded for, protection levels that prevent mangling of hteir species specific paramters as well, and it’s all controlled by a higher metainfo that science simply can not explain via chemical to chemist macroevolution
Soothsayer- metainfo was discussed in detail in this thread (It’s a very long thread, but a LOT of invaluable info was presented there showing how ALL of life is irreducible, not just certain systems like Behe has expressed)- Be sure to give it a read- metainfo can NOT arise via mistakes in nature, and metainfo is absolutely necessary BEFORE any changes can take place in any meaninful manner in species- it’s a VERY itneresting thread- well worth the time to read throgugh) Chemicals can NOT self assemble into anythign intelligently combined enough to even begin hte hypothetical process of macroevolution- there HAS to be a system of metainformation inplace BEFORE any changes can take place- this metainfo- (info about info) is quite amazing really, and we know it contributes to a species specific parameter system that prevents manipulation beyond these limits, and is coded to protect species kinds from losing fitness and from moving beyond hteir own kinds as discussed in the thread- you’ll find your explanation for species specific info in there as well
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