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To: caseinpoint
I think the homo-nazis are p**sing people off with their inane tantrums - they're not gaining any support, IMO.

A proposition to overturn 8 will fail. The homo-activists had the deck stacked overwhelmingly in their favor last year, and they still didn't win. With homo-"marriage" already ensconced in "law," a sabotaged ballot initiative title, all the Hollyweird loons crowing about it, and a record turnout for the dems excited about the "messiah", you'd think they would have it in the bag.

What's going to happen with two voter initiatives saying no to marriage now being challenged as well as the momentum of a state supreme court saying that 8 is ok? I'd be surprised if the homophiles get 40% to vote for homo-"marriage."

26 posted on 03/11/2009 5:49:26 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: fwdude

“What’s going to happen with two voter initiatives saying no to marriage now being challenged as well as the momentum of a state supreme court saying that 8 is ok? I’d be surprised if the homophiles get 40% to vote for homo-”marriage.”

I believe the issue before the State Supreme Court isn’t the approval of the principle of marriage but the process by which the proposition got before the electorate. They first tried to argue that gay marriage was a fundamental right which could not be taken away by initiative or any other means. That issue was settled before the election. This alleges defects in the process. And most believe the Proposition will be upheld as having been validly in the election.

Now they are attacking marriage completely, basically saying that if gays can’t be civilly married, neither should heterosexuals, One of the propositions is to force the government to stop recognizing marriage for everyone and classify all married couples as “civil partnerships” on the same basis that gays are recognized. In general, it is saying to heterosexual couples, “If we can’t join you, you must join us.” They want religious marriage to be a social institution instead of a legal institution and only civil partnerships recognized by the state so heterosexual couples would have to go through both the civil partnership procedure and the religious marriage to get what we have today in traditional marriage.

It will be interesting to see what happens. In the case of Prop 8, many celebrities and politicians were hesitant to support gays. After Proposition 8 won, those same politicians and celebrities were quick to extend condolences to gays and to “tut tut” Prop 8 supporters. Schwarzeneggar and many others publicly urged the State Supreme Court to overturn the measure. Methinks it was their way of having it both ways: not on record against traditional marriage but sympathetic to gays. Now that gays are pushing on with further actions, those sympathizers might be pressured to support the gays more substantially. Time will tell.


27 posted on 03/11/2009 9:47:49 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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