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To: 4CJ
Lincoln fought to preserve the REVENUES (aka tariffs).

What's wrong with that? That was his Constitutional duty. That's what the southerners agreed to when they ratified the Constitution. Yankees didn't have a problem with collection at Northern ports. What made the rebs so special other than the universal desire for special treatment by spoiled brats?

Secession was due to the desire for self-government, as Lincoln was elected without receiving a single Southern vote.

If the rebs were really principled champions of self-government it seems ironic that they fought so hard against the right of self government for their slaves. The contradictions of the political Confederacy are a constant source of amusement.

The remainder of the seceding states withdrew from the union AFTER Lincoln declared war on the South and demanded troops from each of the remaining states

States Rights considerations undoubtedly had a bigger role in Upper South secession along with typical cheap Confederate fraud and the ever present appeal for slavery. But the thing would have never got started if the Deep South idiots had not abandoned all political common sense in an effort to safeguard their beloved institution of slavery-the cornerstone of the Confederacy.

129 posted on 03/14/2009 5:18:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
What's wrong with that? That was his Constitutional duty.

Because that's ALL the Lincoln was concerned with. In his 1st inaugural speech he stated that the South could leave, no troops would be sent to coerce her. But if the MONEY was not received - it was WAR!!!

LINCOLN: Show me the MONEY!!!!!

If the rebs were really principled champions of self-government it seems ironic that they fought so hard against the right of self government for their slaves.

Which explains why the US Constitution (ratified by EVERY Yankee state) protected slavery? Why Lincoln stated that the fugitive laws would be upheld, and explains why all those Yankees sailed to Africa to purchase them right?

But the thing would have never got started if the Deep South idiots had not abandoned all political common sense in an effort to safeguard their beloved institution of slavery-the cornerstone of the Confederacy.

Nonsense. The NORTH refused to lower tariffs (they raised them to their highest levels), and refused to abide by the Constitution regarding slavery. Congress, without confederate representatives in attendence, refused to compromise on anything. The Constitution was a legal agreement which yankees disregarded for decades. The South simply had enough of yankee hypocrisy.

131 posted on 03/14/2009 11:25:44 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Regarding the Lincoln, AFTER his election and the secession of 7 states, he stated 14 Feb 1861, '[N]o subject should engage your representatives more closely than that of a tariff.'

That was HIS priority, not preserving the Union.

132 posted on 03/14/2009 11:35:13 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
And again, this was the same time that Lincoln championed the Corwin Amendment (the 2nd 13th) stating, 'I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.'

Money was Lincoln's SOLE priority.

133 posted on 03/14/2009 11:41:02 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“That’s what the southerners agreed to when they ratified the Constitution”

The northerners agreed to slavery when they ratified the Constitution.


147 posted on 04/09/2009 4:53:14 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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