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NRO - PONNURU, SALAM: Away from the Gated Community (GOP Must move to the "Center" on Economics)
National RINO Review ^ | March 09, 2009 | RAMESH PONNURU & REIHAN SALAM

Posted on 03/10/2009 1:38:04 PM PDT by GOPGuide

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We tried these genius strategy with McCain and his attempt to reach out to third world immigrants and support unlimited poverty importation.

That's why McCain is president today!

;)

1 posted on 03/10/2009 1:38:04 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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What the hell is wrong with just defining your core beliefs: low taxes, small central government, muscular defense and individual liberty, then let the electorate come to you in droves.

Those principles will win every time - why the need to go upsacle, downscale or sideways? Why the need to pander to ethnic or socio-economic groups? Conservatism appeals to ALL right-thinking people (no pun intended) that want only to be free to reap the fruits of their own labor.


2 posted on 03/10/2009 1:46:59 PM PDT by StatenIsland
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Not interested in moving to the left.

We heard all this nonsense during the runup to the 2008 elections by various factions trying to push their favorite RINO be it Rudy, Mitt, The Huckster, or McAmnesty.

None were worthy enough to tie the shoelaces of Ronald Reagan and all they were pushing was the lie that they were conservative and that we should compromise our values and principles because we had to move to the center.

We tried that and it failed miserably.

How about we just stick to our conservative principles this time, OK?


3 posted on 03/10/2009 1:47:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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Seems like they’re not going to listen until us ‘regular downscale folk’ start showing up on their doorsteps with pitchforks.


4 posted on 03/10/2009 1:48:06 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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I'm working on my next book, "Eight Events that Shaped America." One of the events involves the rise of rock and roll, and how it was exported to the Soviet bloc and helped bring down the Iron Curtain. It's truly amazing to look at how the YOUTH behind the Iron Curtain were rebelling against the very communism that these people think we need to embrace.

It's NOT ABOUT YOUNG OR OLD. It's about IDEAS.

5 posted on 03/10/2009 1:51:07 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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Now the strong support for the Democrats by young people, Hispanics, and non-Christians is said to be creating an unstoppable trend toward liberalism.

Philosophically bankrupt, intellectually ignorant, individuals and collectives ALWAYS trend toward socialism.

6 posted on 03/10/2009 1:51:18 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: GOPGuide

Truth is not negotiable.


7 posted on 03/10/2009 1:53:56 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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This might be worth a try if the bar separating Liberals from conservatives wasn’t stiff as a board.we move to the center,they move equally farther to the left.The liberals definition of compromise is, you come all the way over to us and we all can dance around the maypole.In my life they have never budged until you gave them something worth more than they were giving up.Holy Charlie brown football kicking Christ,how many times do we fall for this?


8 posted on 03/10/2009 1:55:12 PM PDT by mayflower1637
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To: GOPGuide

Sadly, this is nothing new for National Review. In the late 50’s they ran a book review of “Atlas Shrugs” that claimed the theme of the book was “To the gas chambers go.”


9 posted on 03/10/2009 1:57:47 PM PDT by shempy (BOYCOTT GM & CHRYSLER - support American VALUES!)
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Did it ever enter any one’s head that the vote received might just be related to the quality of the candidate which the party runs? Think Bob Doyle, think the last old geezer that the Republicans ran for President. They have to run candidates that appeal to the voter.
10 posted on 03/10/2009 1:58:11 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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TA lot of people who had voted for Republicans started voting for Democrats. Those people are not easily categorizable.

Sure they are. They're called gullible "moderates." Or as i like to call them, idiots.

11 posted on 03/10/2009 1:58:26 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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The demographics look excellent for the Rats.

Single women, especially single women with children, wanting Uncle Sugar to bring home their bacon, is a huge voting bloc.

There is no way the Pubbies are going to be able to out-pander the Rats when it comes to appealing to racial blocs — the Rats are masters of dividing people by race and demonizing whites as supposedly trying to hold the other races down.

And amnesty will bring in tens of millions of poorly-educated voters who strongly supported socialists in their home country.

Since the Rat base is a cobbled-together collection of grievance groups looking to the government for sustenance, I have to wonder whether the continued economic decline of the private sector as a result of Obama’s policies will even have a significant negative effect on the loyalty of the Rat coalition.


12 posted on 03/10/2009 1:59:38 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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Here's what the middle-of-the-road looks (and smells) like:


13 posted on 03/10/2009 2:02:53 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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This is the sort of thing that keeps me from subscribing to WFB’s magazine.

I’ve been Republican all my life, with the exception of an experiment in Democratic registration in the off years to see if it would get me any better response from letters to my Democratic Congressional delegation. (it doesn’t - they ignore people in their own party too). Parents were conservative Republicans before it was cool. They worked on Goldwater’s campaign like sled dogs, and even tho Goldwater lost, that was the genesis of the Reagan revolution.

And here, we have these NR twinks coming out with this trope that Republicans live in gated communities. Well, I think this shows who they are.

It is not, however, who we are - as if all those NASCAR fans live in gated communities. Hunters and gun-toting rabble live in gated communities — riiiight. All us folks in the rural west — we have hand-hammered wrought iron over the ranch gate, don’t you know, and polo ponies instead of quarter horses. And all of us who are small businessmen and women — why, we’re just in the business of sitting up on the veranda, sippin’ mint julips while telling the hired help to “speed things up a bit there...”

Who ARE these morons within the GOP who think this crap? Well, now we know: they’re the same sort of twinks that brought us the Obama campaign: Ivy-league liberal arts majors without a clue or a real, productive job.

I’ve just about had my fill of this. If these silk pantywaists want to believe these ridiculous tropes, they can do it without me or my capital. They can go off and sip their VSOP and huff on their Cuban cigars while telling their wife to “please get off the pool boy!” from South America.

This crap makes me so furious... to hell with NR and their pack of Ivy-league blueblood pecksniffs and New York papists.


14 posted on 03/10/2009 2:03:50 PM PDT by NVDave
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Battleground Poll question D3:
60% of Americans reliably self-identify as “very conservative” or “somewhat conservative.”
35% are “somewhat liberal” or “very liberal.”

Question for David Frum: “Which number do you think is larger?”

Careful David: this one’s tricky...


15 posted on 03/10/2009 2:10:19 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: GOPGuide

There are changes in the air with the Republicans, hopefully for the better. However, change is a word associated with the Head Marxist In Charge (HMIC) BHO, so we can’t exactly coopt it.

One way for everyone to get what they want would be to dissolve the U.S., but is that feasible? Or desirable?

If the nation did dissolve into four or more regions it would lead to more voter satisfaction. Agree or not? The regions could make a pact with one another as if they were NATO and the military could remain unchanged.

Other than that, I sadly see leftist Democratic rule ad infinitum... And that’s a long time.


16 posted on 03/10/2009 2:11:55 PM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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The only thing more nauseating than moving to the left would be if I were to start dating Rosie O'Donnell.
17 posted on 03/10/2009 2:17:50 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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Move to the center? What center?

I hate this kind of thinking. You don’t run polls to find out what you think. You don’t choose your principles based on demographics.

The first step is this: you have to know what you believe. What are your principles? Do you have any? What is for you nonnegotiable? Lets start there.

If your nonnegotiable principles put you in the minority, then you have a lot of work to do, selling, persuading, teaching. Getting elected is not an end in itself; if you have no principles then what is the point? There are plenty of politicians in office already with no principles to direct them.

Your election campaign strategy should not be to hide your views hoping you’ll get elected by mistake, or by accident. It has to be that you will teach and persuade and convince people that your views are right, and in that way build a durable majority. And in that way accomplish something that matters.

There are too many people on our side of the line who see politics as a contest between two teams, rather than a war of ideas. They are looking for the trick play that will get the quarterback across the line. They’ve lost hope of ever really convincing anyone of anything.


18 posted on 03/10/2009 2:25:37 PM PDT by marron
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Most of the people in the gated communities - and most of the wealthy, in fact - are Dems.

Maybe if the GOP gives them an alternative, they’ll take it. So what we actually have to do is attract the gated community, but that won’t happen if we offer them exactly what the Dems offer.

I think many of them are going to get really burned on that squirrelly little radical they’ve elected, and I think they will be looking for an alternative.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 3:04:20 PM PDT by livius
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Did you read this article before posting it? It’s neutral.


20 posted on 03/10/2009 3:06:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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