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1 posted on 03/09/2009 9:09:11 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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ping!


2 posted on 03/09/2009 9:09:43 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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is this the event they think they found a possible impact crater for which is now split between antarctica and australia (connected at the time of the event?


3 posted on 03/09/2009 9:11:35 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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Another example of why not to take any of these theories too seriously.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 9:11:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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Uh-Oh

Now you've gone and done it.

6 posted on 03/09/2009 9:19:27 PM PDT by YHAOS
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It was the flood. The Great Flood. Forget all of this scientific jumbo jumbo. Every few years they have to rewrite the story as the facts change,

As the great rabbi Ram Bam wrote... if you have faith, you do not need proof. If you do not have faith, no proof is ever enough.

The love of G-d is the beginning of wisdom...

8 posted on 03/09/2009 9:25:28 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Oh the pain.


11 posted on 03/09/2009 9:38:23 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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Ping


17 posted on 03/10/2009 12:19:45 AM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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What exactly is the point these capering pinheads think they have made? This paper doesn't support YEC. It doesn't support a global flood. It doesn't support intelligent design, specified complexity, 'genetic entropy', created kinds or a 6000 year old earth. It suggests that a certain site is less suitable for dating than previously thought, and in particular what were previously thought to be evidences of post-Permian ecosystem recovery may be Permian in origin. In light of these facts the authors warn that South African models of terrestrial extinction may have to be modified, and caution should be used when extrapolating this data to other locations.

Notable things this paper does NOT do: question the P-T extinction event itself or the absolute age of the P-T extinction event.

So what is their point? Is this just the thing where nutters throw a giant flapdoodle whenever scientists disagree over something vaguely related to the nutters' nuttery?

18 posted on 03/10/2009 1:49:31 AM PDT by oldmanreedy
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The writers at Creationsafaris seem to grasp at any thread, and delcare it anchor chain.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 5:42:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Asteroid 'destroyed life 250m years ago'
by Dr David Whitehouse
Friday, February 23, 2001
Earth's biggest mass extinction 251 million years ago was triggered by a collision with a comet or asteroid, US scientists say. They have reached this conclusion by looking at atoms from a star trapped inside molecular cages of carbon...

In rock layers laid down at the time, there is a much higher concentration of complex carbon molecules called fullerenes that have different types, or isotopes, of helium and argon trapped inside them. These molecules could only have been delivered from space, the researchers say...

The researchers believe these particular fullerenes are extraterrestrial because the gases trapped inside have an unusual ratio of isotopes that indicate they were made in the atmosphere of a star that exploded before our Sun was born...

The telltale fullerenes were extracted from sites in Japan, China and Hungary, where the sedimentary layer at the boundary between the Permian and Triassic periods had been exposed...

The research was made difficult because there are few 251-million-year-old rocks left on Earth. Most rocks of that age have been recycled through the planet's tectonic processes...

Researchers estimate the comet or asteroid was six to 12 km (3.7 - 7.4 miles) across, or about the size of the asteroid believed responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs 67 million years ago...

The mass extinction of 251 million years ago was the greatest on record.
Meteor May Have Started Dinosaur Era
by Kenneth Chang
May 17, 2002
In the layer of rock corresponding to the extinction, the scientists found elevated amounts of the rare element iridium. A precious metal belonging to the platinum group of elements, iridium is more abundant in meteorites than in rocks on Earth. A similar spike of iridium in 65 million-year-old rocks gave rise in the 1970's to the theory that a meteor caused the demise of the dinosaurs... The levels are only about one-tenth as high as those found at the later extinction. That could mean that the meteor was smaller or contained less iridium... In the same rock layer, Dr. Olsen and his colleagues found a high concentration of fern spores -- considered an indicator of a major disruption in the environment. Because spores carried by the wind can travel long distances, ferns are often the first plants to return to a devastated landscape. The scientists found more evidence of rapid extinction in a database of 10,000 muddy footprints turned to rock in former lake basins from Virginia to Nova Scotia... Because the sediment piles up quickly in lake basins, the researchers were able to assign a date to each footprint, based on the layer of rock where it was found. They determined that the mix of animals walking across what is now the East Coast of North America changed suddenly about 200 million years ago. The tracks of several major reptile groups continue almost up to the layer of rock marking the end of the Triassic geologic period 202 million years ago, then vanish in younger layers from the Jurassic period...
Permian-Triassic Impact
by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein
Physics News Update
Number 106 (Story #2), December 14, 1992
An asteroid impact may have caused the mass extinction that occurred at the boundary between the Permian and Triassic periods 250 million years ago, said Michael Rampino of NYU at the AGU meeting. He asserted that he has found evidence---in the form of gravity anomalies and certain rock deposits---for such an impact in the South Atlantic, in an area where, many scientists believe, South America, Africa, and other land masses fit together in the primordial supercontinent called Gondwanaland. Rampino claims that the gradual breakup of Gondwanaland into present-day continents may have been initiated by the catastrophic impact. Another scientist at the meeting, Verne Oberbeck of NASA/Ames also believes an impact may have sundered Gondwanaland and that, in general, impacts should be given more credit for shaping earlier Earth geology. In particular, he believes that the small rock sediments called tillites, usually thought to result from the grinding and plowing action of glaciers, may in part be debris from impacts. Consequently, Oberbeck suggested, there might have been fewer glacial periods than is usually believed. Rampino went so far as to say that all tillites are of impact origin. Unlike the theory that describes the KT (Cretaceous-Tertiary) catastrophe 65 million years ago (when the dinosaurs became extinct) in terms of an asteroid impact, the notion that the PT catastrophe was caused by an impact or that tillites result from impacts is anything but a majority opinion; indeed, many scientists at the meeting were skeptical about Rampino's and Oberbeck's ideas. Thomas Crowley of the Applied Research Corp., a paleo-climatologist, said that his reaction to the proposed impact origin of tillites was one of "considerable disbelief, bordering on incredulity." For one thing, he said, tillite deposits are too extensive over time and physical extent to have been caused by an impact.

31 posted on 03/10/2009 4:46:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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