Posted on 03/09/2009 8:29:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler
It makes much sense that Satan would create something that might appear like Bible prophecies.
Its possible that Satan created his prophecies to coincide with Bible prophecies to stir up his Muslim followers to cause death and destruction upon the earth.
Some scholars I have read, believe the AC to be Jewish, to win the hearts and allegiance of Israel. Signing the 7 year peace plan and pushing through the building of the temple.
Still others believe he comes out of Europe.
There are numerous prophecies out there about the End Times. The Mahdi, December 2012, The Man In The Blue Turban. Things that MIGHT fit, and some could ACTUALLY be fairly accurate. But Bible prophecy is the only prophecy to truely be concerned with. You can't go wrong with that.
Though I'm intrigued with Mahdi stuff that I've heard, My problem is with Ezekial 38-39. The war of Gog/Magog. This war happens either right before the revealing of AC or shortly after. This war is a coalition of Russia and MANY/MOST Islamic nations. They will attack Israel. No one will defend Israel, ACCEPT God. He will make it known that HE defended Israel. It will take Israel 7 months to bury the dead of the invaders. And I'm lead to believe that not just the militaries of these nations will be destroyed, but possibly these nations themselves. This would put AC at quite a disadvantage. Though it would give him the rage, for the second half of the trib.
Also Daniel describes the nations/kings of the world as 10 horns, and the antichrist as the little horn. AC rips 3 horns up by there roots. Could this be HIS retalition for the attack on Israel, to prove his "loyalty" for Israel? Or at least peace in the world.
I might not "KNOW" exactly how, or when things happen. But I do know that AC agrees to a 7 year peace agreement with Israel. THIS seems to be AC's concrete revealing moment, and I don't plan on being here for that.
I switched to Scroogle a month or 2 ago.
We are in the birth pains and the contractions are getting stronger and faster.
Part of me is nervous about the future. The other part of me is EXCITED !
2 Peter 3: 3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
Thanks.
I have similar conflicted feelings.
Blessings,
I have to ask you.
When the rapture comes, isn’t there an age that goes up and considered “innocent”? Like under 12?
You were asking about this — “When the rapture comes, isn’t there an age that goes up and considered “innocent”? Like under 12?”
Well, there’s not a verse that says, “When the Rapture happens, everyone under xx years old will be taken up, too...” So, that’s a difficulty in answering this. But, there is a hint in one other place in the Old Testament. However, I have a bit of difficulty with the *age* that it suggests....
But, I give it for *possible guidance* in the matter, although it may not really apply. It *does* give an “age of accountability” for the matter at hand in the Old Testament, though. And that’s sort of what you’re talking about here.
It’s when the 12 spies were sent out to scope out the land. They came back with a report where 10 reported the dangers of the land (and the giants in the land) and discouraged the people of Israel from going forward. Two of the spies gave a good report (Caleb and Joshua).
Now, because Israel sinned and disobeyed God and failed to proceed, as God had commanded (to take the land of Israel) and listened to the voice of the 10 spies giving a bad report — God placed a judgement upon the *entire nation of Israel* — that *not a single one of them would ever enter the promised land* — and that all of them would die in the wilderness.
He said that this judgement applied to anyone 20 years old and over (I’ll have to double-check that number, but I’m pretty sure it was 20). Thus, all of the nation died in the wilderness and the only ones that made it into the Promised Land, were those under 20 years old on that day. Those under 20 were *not held accountable* — in general, for that particular judgement upon the nation. Only Joshua and Caleb escaped the judgement and specifically because they were the only ones who gave a good report.
Thus, the “hint” may be that it applies to everyone under 20 years old, as not being “accountable” in a “judgement” that is across-the-board and who “makes it” and who “does not make it” (in the Rapture).
But, as I said, I have a bit of trouble with that age and wonder if it was only applicable to that particular time. However, if we are to use the Bible as a guide to “explain the Bible” — that would definitely be one place where one would use something from the Bible...
Thank you so much!
I can handle anything if my girls are with The Lord.
How did it work out for your download and listening in the car?
I hope you get to listen to a lot more of Jan Markell; it’s a great program.
Actually it went GREAT! I am working on several episodes past now.
I really do appreciate you posting that. I’m finding my way back to total devotion to Christ as I have found myself being a not consistent Christian. Not NOT believing, but more of a lukewarm Christian. I ran across that verse the other day where Jesus he would rather spit out a lukewarm heart or something to that effect and it struck me.
I have to admit to you Star Traveler, my mother’s family is very ‘end times’ aware. It has been drilled in my head since birth and it never made sense to me. EVER! I mean I could see a war starting in the middle east, whoopity doo. Who couldn’t forsee that? But the “whole world loving one man” type thing and being called “The Messiah”!! I mean I always took it to mean literally he would say “I am Jesus returned” and I thought no way would a majority of people fall for that! But in Obama, my eyes have been slammed open! He is ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE. He IS the Messiah to Louis Farakhan and many blacks. He IS the Messiah to muslims because he represents “Islam taking over the world by taking over America” because in their eyes he is and will always remain muslim. He is a “Savior” of sorts to all other faiths by the Europeans wanting to see him as some sort of internation superstar and the USA libs wanting to believe he really was a Christian guy who just happened to be of another culture.
So this whole past year has really opened my eyes to start paying attention. I also used to not comprehend how we would not back Israel. Obama answers that. It should have been impossible for Obama to win, but it wasn’t. And when it’s written, it’s written.
Yes..., very good. I’m glad to hear that.
With the right understanding of what the Bible is saying, it does all fall into place exactly as it says.
There are others (even Christians...) who don’t have the “picture” all in the right place. For those others, it’s like a 1000-piece puzzle that is supposed to be a scene of the countryside and flowers and trees — and when they finish the puzzle, they’ve got an “abstract art painting” instead of that country scene, and they’ve “forced” the puzzle pieces together to get it... LOL..
With that right understanding, the Bible does make very good sense...
The age of accountability . . . which is different for each individual, imho.
and I don’t think anyone has the Rapture thing all figured out.
Will be interesting to look back and see how God orchestrated it all.
TRAIN THEM UP IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO AND WHEN THEY ARE OLDER THEY WILL NOT DEPART FROM IT.
I also pronounce forgiveness over such folks I have spiritual influence over or some connection as grounds to do so over.
It’s my opinion that God is looking for Biblical justification to save people, not Biblical excuse to damn them.
Praise God for your enlightenment.
OThuga is just the beginning of the HORRIFIC DELUSIONs DESCENDING ON THE WORLD at record speed an ugliness.
later
Yes, and tonight I have adopted the old adage, “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord”.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! TO THAT.
Music pastor today at lunch . . . was noting very emphatically how we are called to
DIE!
Scripture speaks of dealing with and dying to . . .
Die daily to self; the world the flesh and the devil.
Losing our life in Christ that we might live eternally.
That’s a very good analogy your music pastor spoke of and it is a tradition of old with fasting and sacrifices people made for God. I mean real personal sacrifices and most of that means denying the flesh. But I have noticed we live (and yes, it’s probably not lost on you, but for me it’s all becoming clearer) in a society that does nothing BUT pamper the flesh. Day in and day out. And now we have reached a point that reminds me of old Rome where death is for our folly. As Daniel went to the lions for the amusement of a group of soulless people, innocents are dying so man and woman can have sex (not meaningful, but ‘amusement’ sex) with no “consequence” or “punishment”. This is very similiar and in the same way that we look at the Gladiator style of entertainment as horrific. It’s a shame that as “enlightened” as we are, we don’t see abortion in that same way. Seems putting a white coat on something makes it all seem ok.
Why do I feel like I’m writing a sermon? Wow, that just flowed from my fingers at 5:30 in the am.
>>It’s my opinion that God is looking for Biblical justification to save people, not Biblical excuse to damn them.<<
My FRiend, you give me peace. Thank you.
CONGRATS. VERY WELL PUT.
THX.
PREACH IT!
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
JUST FITS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HIS NATURE AND CHARACTER AS WELL AS HIS GOALS.
You might read
ANGELS ON ASSIGNMENT by Roland Buck. It’s available free for reading online. You can download it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.