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Morgellons: Expert Says Awareness and Early Treatment are Paramount (interesting interview)
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Posted on 03/09/2009 6:43:36 AM PDT by Scythian

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To: rusty millet

Diet plays a role, or rather, can help to control the symptoms, doubtful that it has anything do with catching it, unless you consider eating GMO food, which is probably where this comes from. I don’t have time to post the full deal right now, but eliminating sugar is very important, and anti-candida diet helps, the reason why might sound obvious, but the real reason might suprize you. Will post more later, heading out for a while, be back later.


41 posted on 03/09/2009 3:34:42 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Don't know what to think of this.

There are some who really have a mental, not physical, issue. A doctor acquaintance of mine had a few patients like that, they would always be in worrying about the latest thing they read about.

But there are some people with real issues. Something is going on, or multiple somethings. I suspect that there are many conditions that are getting lumped into this for lack of a better spot to put it.

42 posted on 03/09/2009 5:38:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Scythian
Don't know about GMO foods being a source. The first mention of Morgellons was in old documents from the 16th century, and there have been mentions of this along the way since (as I am sure you are aware of by now).

The real question is why so many now? Are they all “real” cases, or are there multiple conditions coming into play.

43 posted on 03/09/2009 5:40:01 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Nobody really knows what the Morgellons of the 16th century was, the name was adopted as our disease name and many are not happy it that. However my theory, when I post it, will explain how it is very possible for what they had in the 16th century, and what we now have, to be in fact the same thing, only what we have has gone world wide through the food supply, it is caused by a soil bacterium, which has been hopped up with some hefty gene therapy, including biolumenscence characteristics.


44 posted on 03/09/2009 6:09:33 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

If you want to understand how fibers can move I suggest you do some
research on Bacillus Subtillus. Look at this image of the bacteria
Bacillus Subtillus growing moving fibers(used in almost all GMO
applications

“Mendelsons Work” - Living Moving Fibers, that’s right.
http://mic.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/full/147/4/929/DC1

I was sprayed with Plant Growth Promoting Rhizobacteria (PGPR) while
in Flordia by “drift” as they were spraying it on the fields.

See this link:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/n36q864187v67077/

Here’s a quote:

PGPR with wide scope for commercialization includes Pseudomonas
Fluorescens, Pseudomonas Putida, Pseudomonas Aeruginosa, Bacillus
Subtilis and other Bacillus spp.

However, we have the “hopped up” kind. Now, Pseudomonas Putida can
turn the materials in your body into plastic, see this thread:

Putida (the same stuff they use to eat oil spills, it turns it into
biodegradeable plastics).

We are infected with this mix, which consists of soil and plant
bacterium, however, this is like catnip to many microscopic soil pests
such as collembola/spring tails. Search for Collembola and “Putida” in
Google and you will see how strongly attracted they are to us.

COLLEMBOLA AND MITES - Favorite Food ==> Putida


http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/64/7/2660

Microarthropod Folsomia Candida (Collembola) prefer to feed on
Pseudomonas Putida and three indigenous gut isolates rather than eight
different type culture strains.

Dr. Randy Wymore cultured “Pseudomonas Putida” off of sample
Morgellons fibers. We know Putida is like ringing a dinner bell for
tiny microscopic Microarthropods like Collembola.

See http://cherokeechas.com/rwupda04.htm

QUOTE:

Individual red and blue Morgellons fibers were placed in bacterial
media and cultured at body temperature. Isolates of those bacterial
populations were grown on lab preparative media, blood agar, chocolate
agar and a type of media that tends to support fungi better than
bacteria. The bacteria were stained with various stains and observed
both alive and dead. The bacteria were separated out into pure
cultures (I think). PCR was performed and the amplified DNA was sent
to a commercial sequencing lab to do the DNA sequencing.

Two different bacterial species were identified.

They were:

a) Pseudomonas putida and
b) Corynebacterium efficiens.


Finally, in a study of people with our exact symptoms who were thought to have DOP turned out to be infected with Collembola, tiny insects, whose favorite food is gain, Ps. Putida. See http://www.bodylice.com/news/2004/delusory.htm


One more thing, the by product of PS. Putida when it makes plastic is Toluene, see http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/107621620/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 and it can make it from glucose, something readily available in the human body. Dr. Staninger is an award winning toxicologist who has been studying Morgellons, she gets extensive blood work done on her patients, they test for practically every known chemical, Morgellons patients are often found to have high levels of Toluene, a substance that should not even be in the human body.

I have more, I really need to write a thorough paper on this, this is a hodge podge of info I’m throwing at you, and there is more, such as Ps. Putida being a common soil bacterium, it’s possible somehow this got into folks, a virulent strain back in the 1600’s when Morgellons was first coined, however, now due to our messing with it, hopping it up, using it heavily in our food supply, like zz-top it’s “Bad and Nationwide” and coming to a dinner plate near you.


45 posted on 03/09/2009 8:00:56 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

That’s the most compelling, plausible theory of “Morgellon’s” I have ever read.


46 posted on 03/09/2009 8:03:01 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

I have so much more on this subject, I will try to put this into a real document with all of the proper references, there is even more evidence on this. But thankyou, I do believe it can explain what is happening to us, our skin is harboring this, the bugs then become attracted us, the Bacillus grows the fibers, so much more, and it can explain how back in the 1600’s a localized area contacted this disease.

It doesn’t require aliens, chemtrails, population controls thoeries, rather, mans tinkering around with things and releasing it with no real trials (you notice that one link I posted listed these as dangerous to man yet they are using them today).

Let me put this together in a proper theory and I think a very strong case can be made.


47 posted on 03/09/2009 8:15:26 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
It doesn’t require aliens, chemtrails, population controls theories, rather, man's tinkering around with things and releasing it with no real trials (you notice that one link I posted listed these as dangerous to man yet they are using them today).

That would be the merit your presentation has for me.

I'm not saying I believe, but for the first time, I think maybe I could.

48 posted on 03/09/2009 8:18:30 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Scythian; yefragetuwrabrumuy
Thanks, Scythian. Interesting, indeed. If you don't mind, would you please ping me when you've written your report.

The bacteria were stained with various stains and observed both alive and dead. The bacteria were separated out into pure cultures (I think). PCR was performed and the amplified DNA was sent to a commercial sequencing lab to do the DNA sequencing.

Two different bacterial species were identified.

49 posted on 03/09/2009 8:30:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
We feel various types of crawling and biting, one is certainly the growing fibers and the other is Collembola (tiny, tiny insects)

From the Oklahoma Study

But of course, the worse off you get you can become infected with all kinds of things, your body becomes indistinguishable from planet earth to pests and parasites of all kinds.

If you are a sufferer and reading along (I know many have already said they know people with this) you need to get your akalinity up and quickly, this will go along way toward allowing you to hold your own until a cure comes, if ever.

My greatest fear is that if this theory is correct, it's unlikely the CDC study will come to this conclusion, Bio-Engineering is what America has placed it's bet on, putting a 50 or 100 year moratorium on it and killing what's left of our economy isn't likely to happen. So, I completely expect a non specific type of report from the CDC that claims many things but doesn't really say anything, except that more study is needed. It is certainly possible through DNA analysis to pinpoint the exact form of Putida and Subtillus that we have (if any)
50 posted on 03/09/2009 8:45:12 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian; yefragetuwrabrumuy; Velveeta; justiceseeker93

Thanks; no, not a Morgellons sufferer. After reading about this medical mystery a few years ago, I wanted to learn more.

Your posts are fascinating and informative.


51 posted on 03/09/2009 9:37:06 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Scythian

“I’m going the total natural route...”

You might consider switching to coconut oil ipo corn, soy, canola etc, if you haven’t already. Lauric acid in coconut is anti-fungal, anti-yeast, anti-bacterial. It has many advantages over the polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Magnesium, as magnesium chloride might also be beneficial. Soak in it - as well as internally. Magnesium is important to regulating cellular pH. There are other things too that may be beneficial, such as hydrogen peroxide - both internally, and in a tub soak (35 or 50% is available).


52 posted on 03/09/2009 10:24:38 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
You might consider switching to coconut oil ipo corn, soy, canola etc, if you haven’t already. Lauric acid in coconut is anti-fungal, anti-yeast, anti-bacterial. It has many advantages over the polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Magnesium, as magnesium chloride might also be beneficial. Soak in it - as well as internally. Magnesium is important to regulating cellular pH. There are other things too that may be beneficial, such as hydrogen peroxide - both internally, and in a tub soak (35 or 50% is available).

You are RIGHT ON MAN!! I'm so impressed with the Freeper Knowledge base. Magnesium has proven to be very helpful not only with my PH but with my overall health, for those of you with heart issues (or even if you don't) we do not get enough Mag period. I use CALM Magnesium and the stuff is great, it will cut your chance of a heart attack down by a gazzillion.

I have covered my entire body in coconut oil, I should be eating it too. I'm going to create the best scientific theory I can regarding Pseudomonas putida (see post #45 above) that I can and I will post it back here, a link to it anyway.
54 posted on 03/10/2009 3:35:37 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: SonOfPyrodex
Holy cr*p ping. If you have a ping list, please add me.

I am putting a ping list together, I take it you read my post (#45) on this thread. I always said when the root cause of Morgellons was found it would be quite mundane, those the ramifications of it and the disease itself are not. For those who missed that post #45 on this thread take a look, it's rough, and a hodge podge of info, but I believe it puts forth the most likely cause of Morgellons and can explain how it existed back in the 1600's as well.
55 posted on 03/10/2009 7:04:04 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

I never heard anything of this disease until this thread ... now I feel itchy.


56 posted on 03/10/2009 8:08:30 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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I never heard anything of this disease until this thread ... now I feel itchy.

Congratulations, you now have the equivalent eduction as most Doctors in America.
57 posted on 03/10/2009 8:12:35 AM PDT by Scythian
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Thanks. Thanks to everyone contributing to this great
thread.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


58 posted on 03/11/2009 9:45:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Scythian

I did. It’s what spurred the comment. Buried my BS meter at the far end of the scale.


59 posted on 03/14/2009 6:55:35 AM PDT by Air Force Brat
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To: Scythian; PGalt
I'm actually somewhat familiar with Morgellons and have been kind of following the story for the past few years. I believe it is real, but I do not believe it is parasitic. I'm no doctor--not at all--but I think it may be some kind of internal mold infection. Such an infection can be damn near impossible to confirm short of exploratory surgery, and if I'm not mistaken, it IS impossible to cure--but it can be controlled, once it is recognized for what it is.

One of my dad's neighbors (a retired surgeon) had a heart transplant about four years ago. Anti-rejection meds, as you know, are immunosupressive. This man had been living with an internal mold infection for God only knows how long (and who really knows how many of us are?). It wasn't until he began taking the AR meds that the infection exploded. Nearly killed him. It was recognized for what it was very quickly, and was addressed in a manner which didn't jeopardize the transplant. Guy is doing very well now, last I heard, but he takes a medicine cabinet full of drugs a couple of times a day.

Next time I talk to my dad I'll get some more details and an update.

60 posted on 03/15/2009 8:50:57 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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