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We Support Chairman Jeff Frederick (Moderates are trying to push him out but VA GOP leadership)
http://www.rpvnetwork.org/ ^ | Mar 9, 2009 | Willie Deutsch

Posted on 03/09/2009 1:46:28 AM PDT by Maelstorm

A message from Willie Deutsch to all members of We Support Chairman Jeff Frederick on RPVNetwork!

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for jumping on board. In our first 8 hours we had 21 members, and now less than 36 hours after the group began we have 30 members. To those that have helped invite new members, and promoted the group (including Red NOVA), Thank You.

On Wednesday we will begin actually doing things to help Jeff. However, before Wednesday it would be helpful if we could get a lot more people to join this group. Please invite as many friends to join as soon as possible. Invite all your friends on RPV Network, and use the invite with e-mails to invite anyone you know who is not part of RPV Network to join. Also if you have access to any e-mail lists of state Republican activists, please send invites to all those lists.

Getting as many people as possible to join this group quickly will be key to being successful over these next couple weeks. Getting an activist to join this group is the best way to help Jeff right now (beside contacting members of state central).

As goals let's try to get: 58 members by Monday 3/9 11:59 PM, (the number of state central members opposing Jeff as of March 5th). 80 members by Wednesday 3/11 11:59 PM

Thank you all for joining and for your support.

Let us win this one for the party.

Willie D.

Visit We Support Chairman Jeff Frederick at: http://www.rpvnetwork.org/groups/group/show?id=2548153%3AGroup%3A31286

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: frederick; jeff; jefffrederick; va2009; vagop
We are fighting to save our Chairman Jeff Frederick. It wasn't his lack of fight nor that of our candidates. It was these same moderates who are now trying to lay claim to the VA GOP, many of the same who supported Mark Warner and voted with the VA Democrats in the state house to raise taxes under Democrat governors are those seeking to stack the deck against Jeff. If anyone thinks the problems with the VA GOP lay at the feet of a chairman who just has one year under his belt with one of the toughest years just passed are crazy. Jeff should serve out his term. The last thing we need to do is to throw control of the state party back to some of the same turncoats(moderates) who screwed it up and think they are entitled to run the party. Jeff was elected by the grass roots and I'm sticking behind him. I hope you will take a moment to sign up for the group. Thanks.
1 posted on 03/09/2009 1:46:29 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

This is more than just conservative vs. moderate.

It’s brought to you by the people who gave us “Kaine loves Hitler” in 2005.

I’m fed up with all of ‘em.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 7:49:31 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

I’m done. I can’t take the “stupid party” anymore.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 8:02:25 AM PDT by iceskater (Increased taxation and government spending is NOT the way to prosperity.)
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To: iceskater

It really is the stupid party. I’m going to the convention, but I’m reaching my breaking point. A guy can only handle so much before he realizes there are better uses of time.


4 posted on 03/10/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by Nick The Freeper
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To: Corin Stormhands

Well the problem with the ad was it overstated its case. Tim Kaine didn’t support the death penalty that was enough to tar him with. Instead it was turned around on Kilgore by an all too gleeful media. The core idea was lost. That I do agree with. There is plenty to hit liberals with without making stuff up. It is not as if they hide their beliefs.

Here is the Tim Kaine exchange:
“ Michael Hardy, Times-Dispatch editorial board: You couldn’t conceive of a case where the person, because of his behavior and criminal conduct, deserved the death penalty? What about Adolf Hitler, do you think he should be executed? Should have been executed? Joseph Stalin? Idi Amin?

Tim Kaine: Well you know, when you say deserve, it’s…(long pause)…you know, God grants life, and God should take it away. Horrible heinous things deserve incredible punishment, you bet. God grants life, God should take it away, that’s my religious belief. Except in the kind of rare instance of self defense, I mean, a person who, you know, kills someone in self defense, or a nation that, that wages a just war, that is essentially to defend itself or, or others, that would be an exception but…

Hardy: Your conviction is so deep that you cannot name one person in history, because of his malefactions and criminal behavior, deserved the death penalty?

Tim Kaine: Well no, I, the way I answered your question is that they may deserve, you, they may deserve it, of course they may for doing something heinous, they don’t deserve to live in civilized society, they may deserve the death penalty. You know, I look at the world, most nations have decided not to have a death penalty, and, and many are very safe, I don’t think, I don’t think it’s needed to be safe.”

The stupidity is in trying to remove a sitting Chairman who had one tough year mainly because of a national party that couldn’t get it together and a state party (And I’m not talking about Jeff) but others who couldn’t help but rush into the arms of Mark Warner. The guys had no counter balance in the press and even so-called conservative papers refused to print anything negative about him while hammering Gilmore constantly repeating a lie about the budget shortfall while raising taxes. No one in the GOP would ever get away with such a thing. That is what I don’t get with many in the Virginia GOP. There doesn’t seem to be any fight left and those who are fighting are ridiculed.

I do believe it is about NVA moderates. They don’t care about holding the line on taxes or budgets. They aren’t fiscal conservatives because they depend on the life blood of Washington D.C. The problem in VA is that we have a media that has put up a firewall. I remember Jerry Lunde on WRVA. When an election was in full swing Jerry would cover it and really discuss it in more than a superficial manner. Now it seems that WRVA doesn’t have any manhood left until Michael Savage comes on. Even Doug Wilder was a refreshing presence.

The key thing is that we need to stand for something not generalities. It can not be always about the other person it has to be about what we stand for and that is part that is lost. The media know their game. They have learned how to firewall conservatives who don’t have lots of money to spend. However things would be a lot better if conservatives would learn how to hone their attacks and stick to them like Democrats do.

I do think it is stupid to start the political season in VA trying to push Jeff out. I know he was instrumental in getting the Presidential ticket in Virginia as much as it was. If it wasn’t for his efforts and those of us on the ground the Virginia loses would’ve been much worse. Our Senate candidate was Randy Forbes won a sizable Victory and he is in my District. What really hurt Virginia was a McCain campaign that stupidly took public funds and a National party that seemed not to know how to raise money.
I do believe that had the economic mess not hit the GOP would’ve held the Presidency but even our golden boy Eric Cantor, our Presidential candidate, and our sitting President instead of standing by their principles cut and ran. That is why we are losing more than anything else. A hostile media doesn’t help but a handful of principled Republicans can’t carry the weight of an elephant full of corruption but neither can honest men and women take a firing squad not just from their enemies in the media and on the left but when the GOP starts circling upset because someone spoke the truth and the media and Obama cried foul?

That is cowardly and that is what I think it is more fitting distinction. You may be right it isn’t about conservative versus moderate, it is about the cowardly versus the brave. The man who holds his tongue so not to upset the women and girl-men (or vice versa) who would as soon rip an infant out of its mothers belly for the sake of their own selfishness, many living lifestyles wallowing around consuming their own feces like pigs diseased and without shame who would execute the infirm if only to allow themselves more resources for entertainment while rushing to embrace our committed enemies and ride down our troops who lay down their lives for us.

Yes we all have to speak nice and cast the truth in secretive code for the sake of an enemy that will never find favor with us no matter how many times we help the poor, or how many times we grow the government or go along with their niceness codes. That said give me a man stupid enough to speak the truth unafraid versus man who would serve a lie for the sake popularity.

I’ll stand with Jeff Frederick. He didn’t do anything stupid last election. He certainly never miscounted how many states there were as our supreme leader seemed not to be able to grasp. Our own Presidential candidate was the one who couldn’t decide whether he wanted to fight or cower in a fetal position and I like John McCain more now but the truth is what it is. He could have led but choose to go along and you can’t do both and be President.

Here is an excerpt of an article from Time that is pointed at as a reason to remove him tell me if you agree?:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849422,00.html
“Indeed, Frederick, a 33-year-old state legislator, hadn’t even been born yet. But earlier this year Frederick unseated a moderate 71-year-old former lieutenant governor (who also happens to be Jenna Bush’s father-in-law) to become head of the Virginia GOP, promising “bold new leadership” for a state party recently on the decline.

The McCain campaign invited me to visit Frederick and the Gainesville operation on Saturday morning, to get a first-hand glimpse of its ground game in Prince William County, Virginia, a fast-growing area about 30 miles from Washington, D.C.

With so much at stake, and time running short, Frederick did not feel he had the luxury of subtlety. He climbed atop a folding chair to give 30 campaign volunteers who were about to go canvassing door to door their talking points — for instance, the connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden: “Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon,” “


5 posted on 03/11/2009 7:25:22 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The connection between Barack Obama & Osama bin Laden: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon")
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To: Maelstorm

I’m not going to rehash the Kaine/Hitler story. And I’m neither defending nor defaming Jeff. But there’s more to the story than what you’ve seen in the news. That’s all I’m saying.

Except to say that, about WRVA, c’mon, Doc Watson kicks butt.


6 posted on 03/11/2009 8:38:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

Hey Corin,
I do like Doc but I still think WRVA lacks the substance it used to have. I don’t listen much now except when I’m on the way to catch my regular flight out every Monday and catch Jimmy Barrett and I like him too for that matter but it still doesn’t change the fact that much of the media has become a bunch of surface feeders never diving too deep always equivocating. As for the Kaine thing it wasn’t why Jerry lost. Jerry lost because he didn’t hit Kaine harder and smarter sooner. Jerry underperformed Both Bill and Bob.
Both should win this year. We need to get rid of this one term idea for Governors. It really is counterproductive.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 11:12:17 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The connection between Barack Obama & Osama bin Laden: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon")
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To: Maelstorm
Jerry lost because he didn’t hit Kaine harder and smarter sooner.

No, on that point I disagree.

Jerry lost because he never gave us a reason to vote for him. All we got were reasons not to vote for Kaine (i.e. Hitler)

If Jerry had spent the year railing against the Warner tax increase, he'd be governor today.

8 posted on 03/12/2009 4:26:16 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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