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To: GoodDay

“Darwinists” don’t stop questioning at all. The court thing is about curriculum. Intelligent design is, at best, an expose of the weaknesses of evolutionary theory. ID only offers a black box as an alternative.


16 posted on 03/07/2009 5:28:35 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: JmyBryan

“Darwinists” don’t stop questioning at all.”

Darwinists — the outspoken ones, such as Coyne, Scott, Dawkins, et al., — tolerate questioning ONLY within the framework of more Darwinism. Anything that falls outside of “randomness” and “natural selection”, they reject out of hand. For them, “randomness” and “natural selection” are touchstones of “being scientific.” Darwinists have been almost as brutal toward atheist-non-Darwinists, such as Stuart Kauffmann, or theories that posit any sort of biochemical determinism or “predestination.” That’s one reason that some of the non-Darwinist atheists have thrown in with the ID crowd; it seems the latter is willing to examine a theory on its merits.

“The court thing is about curriculum.”

And the curriculum thing is about shaping young minds. Clearly, Darwinists believe it’s appropriate to use the threat of force against those who would criticize their worldview. Even you admitted that ID has brought attention to weaknesses in Darwinism; why shouldn’t those weaknesses be taught?

“Intelligent design is, at best, an expose of the weaknesses of evolutionary theory.”

See above.

“ID only offers a black box as an alternative.”

Wrong. It’s the exact opposite. Each of us knows from first-hand introspective experience what it is like to solve a problem through thinking. In fact, “mind” is the only thing with which we have direct, first-hand experience. A “black box” refers to something that is shrouded in mystery, but which accomplishes lots of things...the cell, for example, was a “black box” for many decades, until biochemistry and molecular biology threw light into it and found it to be a stupendously complicated FACTORY that works according to a biochemical computer program...CODE.

Codes don’t exist in physical nature. They are always artifacts of intelligence, purposiveness, and goal-directedness.


25 posted on 03/07/2009 6:29:53 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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