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Mexico condemns US 'corruption' (Barfer!)
AlJazeera ^ | Mar. 6, 2009 | AlJazeera

Posted on 03/06/2009 10:16:24 AM PST by AuntB

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To: AuntB
“The supply, however, can be stopped.”

Do you really believe that? How are we going to stop the supply from coming in? We've tried for decades to do that with very little luck. We've spent many billions of dollars and an awful lot of manpower over the years and illegal drugs are as easily available as ever and have actually gotten cheaper and more pure in many cases. I just don't think it's possible to stop the flow of drugs, not with so many billions of dollars to be made. If we ever get the fence built that will help a little bit, but they'll still get the drugs in. They'll grow more pot here and they'll figure out how to get the cocaine, meth and heroin in. According to government estimates they bring in less than a thousand tons of all those drugs combined which really isn't that much when you think about it in terms of the volume that amount would fill. It's a couple of dozen tractor trailer loads. They'll cut holes in the fence. They'll use boats, planes, tunnels, submarines, remote controlled aircraft, etc. They'll bribe people at the border. No matter how well we seal the border there will always be cracks. We'll be able to stop the people who just walk across the border to come here to work, but not highly motivated drug smugglers who make many thousands for each load that will likely sell for millions in this country. I think the notion that we are going to stop that is pure fantasy. There is just too much demand and too much money to be made meeting that demand.

41 posted on 03/07/2009 5:57:28 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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When I said they bring less than a “thousand tons of all those drugs combined” I was referring to cocaine, meth and heroin, not marijuana. They bring several thousand tons of that in every year. I just wanted to make that clear because it wasn't clear in my post.
42 posted on 03/07/2009 6:00:53 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SmallGovRepub
Eventually it's just going to be legalized and that really will hurt the cartels.

For how long? They'll just forget about marijuana at that point and get serious about coke and heroin, and you can't legalize all of it.

43 posted on 03/07/2009 7:49:12 PM PST by Marauder (Politicians use words the way squids use ink.)
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To: La Lydia; AuntB

I’m just going to go over a few years worth of some of the aid we’ve given Mexico. In fact, we’ve given aid to Mexico for decades and that aid continues today!

In 2001, USAID gave Mexico 7.885 million dollars for Development Assistance, 5.987 million dollars for Child Survival and Health Programs and 6.178 million dollars in Economic Support Funds.

In 2002, USAID gave Mexico 8.116 million dollars for Development Assistance, 9.500 million dollars for Child Survival and Health Programs and 10.000 million dollars in Economic Support Funds.

In 2003, USAID gave Mexico 13.224 million dollars for Development Assistance, 5.205 million dollars for Child Survival and Health Programs and 11.685 million dollars in Economic Support Funds.

In 2004, USAID gave Mexico 17.895 million dollars for Development Assistance, 3.700 million dollars for Child Survival and Health Programs and 11.432 million dollars in Economic Support Funds.

And yes, providing law enforcement equipment is aid, and it in no way, shape or form benefited the United States.


44 posted on 03/08/2009 9:21:36 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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I have a a feeling about all that aid to Mexico...You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

Good to see you, MI.

The following is a rueters article, can’t be posted, but interesting.

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSN06397194

US military chief backs counter-insurgency for Mexico

It talks about the ‘support’ we will give Mexico. Mullen said he and his Mexican hosts did not discuss the possibility of placing U.S. troops on the U.S.-Mexican border, an idea suggested by Texas Gov. Rick Perry.


45 posted on 03/08/2009 9:33:56 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Marauder
They're already serious about those other drugs, and the fact that marijuana is illegal actually helps them distribute those other drugs because so many smoke pot that the distribution networks for it reach every corner of America. Most of these other drugs just piggy back into your town on top of the marijuana. Pot smokers end up getting offered these drugs by the same people that sell them pot. If we regulate production and sales of marijuana and have it sold through licensed shops pot smokers will be far less likely to be offered these other drugs and these cartels will have lost one of the best ways they have to get these drugs out to end consumers.

According to our government, about 90% of the cocaine consumed in this country comes through Mexico, is supplied by these organizations. They're also supplying most all the meth and heroin consumed here. They are serious about these drugs. But there is only a limited demand for them. Americans consume more marijuana than all these other illegal drug combined. The black market for illegal drugs is mostly a black market for marijuana. These other drugs are expensive and profit margins are high, but most of the money is coming from marijuana. According to the ONDCP, about 62% of their gross proceeds from drugs bound for the U.S. comes from marijuana. They gross about %28 of gross proceeds comes from the next biggest seller, cocaine, but that must first be purchased and smuggled from South America before they bring it here. They don't produce it like they produce the marijuana. The drug czar, John Walters, says marijuana is the “bread and butter,” “the center of gravity” for Mexican drug cartels. Taking marijuana from them would be a devastating blow to these organizations.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

46 posted on 03/09/2009 4:41:39 AM PDT by SmallGovRepub
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To: La Lydia; AuntB
The silence is deafening!
47 posted on 03/11/2009 1:35:29 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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